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explode the bazaars are your e-ticket

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ride into the world of the paranoid

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strap yourself in as we traverse the

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universe exploring the unexplained UFO s

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ghosts Lost Worlds cryptozoology as well

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as other dimensions it's time to take

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back the night now your electrifying

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hosts of exploring the bizarre Timothy

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Begley and this is Tim Buckley in case

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you didn't hadn't guessed because who

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can who can start out a show like me

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nobody nobody nobody and I'm here with

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my co-host Tim Swartz and who are you

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supposed to hold afternoons shoveling

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snow Yeah right notes no we're cleaning

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up from the straight-line winds we had

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yesterday some weather here yeah and

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also also with us tonight we're having

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actually for hosts guest stars people

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that we all love and know Tina Marie who

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of course is our engineer and producer

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and is the host of her own program

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restricted airspace and she's out there

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in Las Vegas I know you guys you guys

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got warmer

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than we do what the heck is that I'm new

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to the desert to get away from the cold

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it's just not right

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spin that spin that roulette wheel and

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let's see what comes up uh here's what

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coming up it's Diane Tesla Tesla but but

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I'm also in outer space well the way the

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reception is great for being an ass well

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when the technology works it works when

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it doesn't I get kinda when it doesn't I

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get cut off the air mm-hmm well we are

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going to have ourselves a grand

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Christmas Eve you know I didn't want to

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sit here by myself this evening my

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friends are all over the country all

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over the world and of course a lot of

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them are married they have their own

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families and they're opening their

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presents and all so I wanted to share

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Christmas Eve with my best friends so

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we're gonna do something different

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tonight do you know why don't you tell

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us what we're going to do well let me

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tell you Tim Tim you know gave me this

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schedule of everybody he wants to pull

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on to the show here it's quota like the

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best of best of and he sent me the list

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over earlier in the week and I went okay

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you know what I guess I'm not having

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wine during the show but anyways we have

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a star-studded lineup I mean you have

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like the who's who of the paranormal

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coming on tonight and then right after

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after this show we have our special twas

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the night before Christmas that all of

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our hosts participated including and

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staff here at case you are and that's

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gonna air every three hours and we go

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commercial free right after your show

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commercial free come Christmas music

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turn us on leave us on all day it's just

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kind of a great you your show is a great

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lead-in into kind of what we're doing

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this whole family atmosphere and you

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definitely got a family atmosphere going

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right we're family oh the men demented

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family anyway you're the crazy uncle

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that sits at the end of the table we get

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what I'm the crumpets of your dreams or

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whatever yeah yeah but yeah we've got

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we've even got Bruce coming on from

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China who's going to tell us about

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dragons I guess dragons are reindeer or

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is actually seen dragons and not even in

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China he's married to a Chinese lady he

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moved over there but he saw dragons here

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mean real dragons we're not talking

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something like that so we're gonna find

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out all about that in a little little

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while now Diane you're you're the one

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here who is you know the the abductee or

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the contactee or the experiencer yeah

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what do you celebrate Christmas Day any

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different than we might that's a good

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umbrella of spirituality over every

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religion that is actually the same

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umbrella which is from the Sufis to the

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Buddhists to the New Agers a wonder of

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the universe on God which doesn't just

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sit on a cloud but is a part of all of

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our heads in our minds and out there in

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so I celebrated in a mother earth father

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sky kind of way okay and what would that

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be now we do know that you do have any

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number of animals on your property you

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have actually an animal sanctuary I mean

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also out there protecting protecting the

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the wildlife which is something I'm sure

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some of your shot gun toting and

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neighbors are not too happy about

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especially during a hunting hunting

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protecting the deer and the wildlife

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during shotgun season when deer or mowed

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down as if they had no intelligence and

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no feelings that's part of my

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celebration of Christmas I protect them

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I've got a refuge here and I do all

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sorts of tricky little things like going

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out with corn and sunflower seeds and

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put water in their heated bucket I have

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to run an electric wire to the barn to

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do that and part of my celebration is

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keeping life going consciousness

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deer are actually very mystical and so

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gentle and intelligent and it's to me

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it's barbaric the hunting that goes on

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and part of my celebration is the fact

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that two of my three point deers which

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means that the Bucks develop a point

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every season that they're alive every

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year so I have two three point Bucks on

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my land beautiful big antlers on them

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and part of my celebration is that both

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of my Bucks made it through hunting

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seasons and I'm the third buck who made

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it through honey

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Tim you're out in Indiana yes yeah and

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and the weather has been a humid did you

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guys get any tornados I know now north

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of us in the Indianapolis area which is

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in central Indiana they actually had a

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an f1 tornado which is the smallest on

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the on the scale but you know this time

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of year or December in you know in in

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Indiana it doesn't take much you know

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you just you know you get a little warm

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air coming up from down south and then

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front coming down from a Canada and it

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can stir up the weather really quick but

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when it comes to the warmth I know I

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can't remember it's been a while since

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since we've had a Christmas where it's

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been so warm where you could actually go

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outside without jacket yeah yeah today

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it was now the only thing I was

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disappointed about it it got up to 73 or

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74 here in Manhattan but it's been it's

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been raining on and off it's a kind of a

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dismal you know like but you know people

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were walking around in shorts they're

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out in the park picnicking and there are

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that's what I know them that's what I

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noticed first haha well guarantee you

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know that if it's if it's this warm now

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then in February we'll be but deep in

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whose but are we measuring that well you

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better hope it's mine

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you know anybody anybody taller and it

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would be like the winter apocalypse so

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Tim how are you spending your Christmas

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well you know of course we have a

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nine-year-old daughter loralei and she

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is in bed asleep now waiting for her

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waiting for Santa Claus to come and and

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what has Santa Claus border oh my gosh

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just okay we got her a a basketball hoop

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she loves playing basketball oh my

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goodness we got her a an iPod touch and

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yeah I'm moving into your house

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well you know sits since iPhones are now

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so ubiquitous you know the iPods are

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kind of you know they're they've

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somewhat fallen out of favor so but you

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know for nine year old girl she's been

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you know I mean it didn't really cost us

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actually I am I am I am going out

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Christmas with my friends and my besties

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we call them here in the hood April and

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of course Carol who is our devoted

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artist and a co mingler was the helper

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assistant messenger of life she doesn't

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come in on Friday so anyway we're going

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we're going out for Indian food which is

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Morrison yes my is my favorite maybe

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I'll have some Bombay chicken or some

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fish so those are my my besties April

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and Carol and then I've been calling and

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talking on the phone to people that I

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don't don't necessarily see but who are

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my my charming friends and devotees like

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Helen who lives out in California and of

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course Peter who is responsible for

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taking our delightful broadcast and

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putting them up on YouTube and adding a

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little bit of spice and and color in the

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dramatics Department he adds the the

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visuals and sometimes I look at these

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and I say wow look at that it's almost

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like looking at a movie I mean he really

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does an incredible job on it so I'm kind

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of happy this you know Christmas I

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actually even took a string of Christmas

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lights and ran them over my tiki bar

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mm-hmm I have I have a very large tiki

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bar with some authentic Tiki statue like

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statues that's not the word tiki figures

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that I that I bought back from Hawaii

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with me on the airplane and now today

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they'd probably say was contraband or

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something and how about you Tino what do

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you you do I know you're going to be at

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the helm of the station here for hours

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and hours do you ever get any rest you

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know this is because

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doing the Christmas special and it's all

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going to be commercial-free nope no news

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no nothing it's all going to be

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automated I'm finishing putting all the

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playlists together but because of that I

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work part-time at Katie WN 7:20 a.m. out

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here in Las Vegas - well naturally

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Christmas nobody wants to work so I'm

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the one that gets to go in at 4 o'clock

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tomorrow morning and work till noon so

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I'm pretty much gonna finish this show

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cut it up get it up finish the stuff in

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the studio and then head right down

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there so I'll be going without sleeping

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so you're going to be doing like umpteen

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hours well we don't do it well the thing

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is is over quedan they're not doing any

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Christmas it's all going to be like

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political it's a political talk show

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stuff like that so I've all got to just

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be there playing the best stuff making

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sure everything gets put into place and

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at least somebody's there watching the 4

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FM and 1 AM station I hope they give you

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a holiday you know I know you want to

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get started on that stuff that's a

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that's a sore topic legally they have to

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and believe it not I've been there for

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I've been at that station for three

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years I just found out for the first

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time this year that they actually do

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that but you have to put it in this

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little spot in the box when you put your

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time card in or you don't get like you

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guys owe me a few thousand dollars here

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I think I think I hear somebody coming

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down Santa Claus Lane would that be Rick

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hilberg it sure is Tim how are you well

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you know Rick I've been sitting here I'm

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just going to say all day but actually I

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was out earlier in the day yeah are you

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guys in the 70s in Cleveland no we're

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really right now we're in the 50s but we

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were up in the 60s earlier today and

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yesterday we set a record temperature

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yeah we're warm same here it must be the

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mother it must be the mother ship

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something is doing and I don't know what

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the heck it is but something is

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definitely doing by probably the El Nino

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mothership huh what you know Rick it is

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nice for you to take the time out from

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your family and friends to join us on

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Christmas Eve because we wanted to

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invite as many of our special guests as

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possible to share this evening with us

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and there were other people that I

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should have invited

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I didn't as Tina sets there in Las Vegas

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pulling her hair thinking about having

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more people on because we've got a whole

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list but I understand you have something

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special to share with our listeners on

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Christmas Eve yes this is something

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that's kind of inspired by her old

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friend the late great Dre Barker I am

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actually yeah yes I mean we all knew

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cray he's one of my mentors and I know

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he's one of your it was one of your men

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friend Brent yeah you know well people

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always used to say old gray is

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unfriendly he doesn't go to like

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conferences he always came to mind I'd

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send him a bus ticket or something he'd

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be he he'd be here and you know his six

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feet I was reading tars yeah yeah he did

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yeah for somebody who was supposed to be

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a Rekluse he wasn't that much of a

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recluse actually I think Jim I think Jim

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Mosley started that rumor for some

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reason it could be there was a great

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Barker Mosley few that was going all in

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the massing fifties and sixties yes but

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that today that's a long time ago

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oh man most people don't even remember

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that but tell it tell us the Christmas

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story okay this is it this is something

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called a strange Christmas tale if it's

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late on Christmas Eve

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you've taken the dogs out for the last

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walk and romp on the snow and now Albert

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and gray are fast asleep by their doggy

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dishes in the kitchen hey they're

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probably thinking about the big party

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tomorrow and all the good straps and

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treats they're going to get from the

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Christmas dinner it's a very quiet in

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the house that you turn on the radio and

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tune in some Christmas music while you

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put the last remaining presents under

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the tree for the next morning when

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friends and family will show up for a

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big holiday gathering you decide to

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light a fire in the fireplace so then

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quite we slip into the kitchen

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to wake the dogs and grab a hot and

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steaming mug of coffee to sit by the

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fire as you listen to the softly playing

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Christmas music and admire how well you

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have decorated your Christmas tree and

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how beautiful the room looks by the soft

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light of the fire you notice through the

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front window that has started to snow

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once again oh it looks so peaceful

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outside now that at this late hour

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everyone is inside the only activity to

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be seen are the twinkling Christmas

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lights of the neighbors and their gently

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falling snowflakes you see some car

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lights coming down the street and see

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someone is entering your driveway Wow

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who could be stopping by at this late

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hour on Christmas Eve you see by the

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light of your porch that the car looks

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very old hey maybe a Cadillac for nearly

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1950s or so oh man that car looks just

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like it rolled off the showroom floor

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and it's a doggone clean that it's black

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finish

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literally gleams in the reflected light

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wait three gents are getting out of the

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car they're not wearing very formal

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looking suits that old fashioned hats

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they appear to be heading for your front

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porch and the door in a second or two

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your doorbell rings should you answer it

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storyteller is is your calling I could

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see my kid does get you booked into

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older he was he's looking for that

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Christmas treat now you've got to give

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them some kind of treat I'm sure Diane

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I'm sure Diane's dogs get treated very

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well I'm sure they do and that the

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recent past that you got - damn - yep so

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so Rick how are you spending your

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Christmas where we're going to be seeing

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our great-grandchildren tomorrow morning

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very early before they leave for a

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little trip and we're just we'll be back

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here and just having a very quiet day

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with some a nice dinner and just sit

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around and relax that's what we're going

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to do and you have a Christmas tree oh

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yes we do we have several we have

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several - actually what is one in

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Jeremy's room our grandsons room we have

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our living room right here in the family

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room I am there's another one so we

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actually have three trees well like

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three of the kings what was the song oh

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never mind I sang that and I think when

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I was in fifth grade or seventh three

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kings we came we three kings yeah yeah

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that was you know the king wenceslas and

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the de Magi who are course we're

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astrologers people say oh the you know

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like all that the occult and services

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done in the Bible it's a it's a you know

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bad omen and so the devil whatever magic

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either came to see Jesus we're

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astrologer so that that's why they had

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in incense and frankenz myrrh and all

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that stuff yeah and and and that's it

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and and Rick I I thank you so much and

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we'll be talking to you in the new year

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all right sir will you have a very good

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Christmas and all of your gas listeners

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yes and and to you and to your family

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Caroline your family you just are a

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little tough yes you too bye bye

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and so that is our first guest for the

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evening and we will have many others

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coming up after our break and we'll be

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talking and next to Paul you know our

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contact up all right well there you go

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and that would be coming up in just a

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few minutes you know I never thought

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that I would hear a christmas-related

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men and black story well so that's the

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villain to me well Rick did a great job

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yes he did he did and I hear that break

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music is that the break break dance

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music yeah dance Santa Claus Santa Claus

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is hip hop into town yeah and and I

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still got to get all this suit off of me

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from coming down at it out of the

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chimney upside down and out if people

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yeah yeah upside down Santa well that's

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maybe my best side I don't know anyway

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well we'll be back and in just a few

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all right he's wishing everyone a Merry

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Christmas and Tim Beckley's gone back up

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the chimney and I'm coming back down

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with the big gifts

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well I welcome everyone all of our

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listeners you got Tim Beck Lee of course

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Dianne Tessman are our wonderful

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producer Tina Marie and now we've got

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Paulino on the line with us Paul thank

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you for very much for being with us

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this Christmas Eve oh you're very

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welcome at America's mr. wall and it's a

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well a good night in a few minutes

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anyway that's right and and and everyone

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you know nestled up close to the fire

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get your eggnog out if you don't like

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that's our third sip we're ready tonight

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well pulse it since you have a

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theological background do you uh do you

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want to add any input to the the whole

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Christmas season and the I know we were

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talking a little bit earlier about the

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Star of Bethlehem and the the angels and

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all that so I mean you know and care to

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add anything well I think why didn't I

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think of that - yeah I think I think I

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spent a lot of years in the seminar

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studying for the priesthood I never made

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it but maybe the church and I both had a

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lucky escape but you know the birth of

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Jesus is obviously this is the center of

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the Christmas idea and that's mentioned

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in only two of the four Gospels Matthew

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and Luke and the popular story as we

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have it comes down mostly from Luke and

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you've got angels and shepherds

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beautiful singing that comes from the

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sky and you know Close Encounters of the

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Third Kind or what and what sounds like

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a great a great deal like a UFO leading

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three astronomers to a little manger now

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there's nothing about a stable and the

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greek word used for manger could also

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mean crib so there could have been

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anywhere but if you're looking for a

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possible paranormal connections the

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angels in the star good places to begin

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so what about the star Bethlehem I

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suppose if

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it could simply be what's commonly

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called a miracle and there's a story

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behind that that's not what most people

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think it is theologically I have no

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problem with that we see miracles all

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the time

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scholarly types however suggest that the

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star Bethlehem was a nova or supernova

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you know an exploding star somewhere in

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the galaxy was like happened to reach

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earth at the time of Christ's birth

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problem is that that Nova's are no they

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look like big stars and they don't move

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to our site relative to other stars

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another issue is that we have very

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little idea of when Jesus was born

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December 25th probably forget about it

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that was a deliberate move on the part

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of the early church to co-opt the Feast

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of the invincible son the unconquerable

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son Roman feast and that was done

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deliberately so that the people the

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pagans would find it easier to relate to

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the and it comes across in English as a

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rather good pun rather than the Sun s UN

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to relate to the Sun s o n being Jesus

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rather clever attendant worked in a lot

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of cases because a lot of people had no

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choice about becoming Christian so this

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is all the background of this of this

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business and the the issue too is that

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the Bible insisted this star did move

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and that it led these wise men from the

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east to this to the Christ child was

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probably two years old or more by the

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time they got there if the story is true

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the UFO theory has been proposed and

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before we laugh at it we should consider

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the fact that most early Christians

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believe that Jesus was a divine being

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who literally came from when went back

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to the sky while the ancients didn't

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share our modern kaneo this

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nuts-and-bolts idea of aliens and flying

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saucers that some of us have they

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thought that we're putting two and two

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together once the official Christian

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doctrine about Jesus was finally settled

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and that wasn't done until the 4th

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century we still have a man with no

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human father who performed all sorts of

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miracles and who had literally ascended

538
00:27:11,730 --> 00:27:08,980
back into heaven carried on some sort of

539
00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:11,740
cloud quote-unquote from Acts of the

540
00:27:16,500 --> 00:27:12,400
Apostles

541
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:16,510
so I mean you tell me and I think that

542
00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:19,690
that's well we just got we just got we

543
00:27:23,270 --> 00:27:21,520
just got thrown off the Christian radio

544
00:27:26,549 --> 00:27:23,280
network but

545
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:26,559
this is a no way a put-down yeah yeah

546
00:27:31,110 --> 00:27:28,690
east of all by me you know yes but I

547
00:27:33,090 --> 00:27:31,120
mean the fact is that that a lot of

548
00:27:34,740 --> 00:27:33,100
people don't understand their own face

549
00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:34,750
whether they be Christians Jews Muslims

550
00:27:38,909 --> 00:27:37,600
Hindus or what they have their own ideas

551
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:38,919
about these things and the official

552
00:27:44,610 --> 00:27:41,290
teachings don't always match and there

553
00:27:46,260 --> 00:27:44,620
is no official teaching about this you

554
00:27:47,730 --> 00:27:46,270
know one way or the other really it's

555
00:27:50,940 --> 00:27:47,740
just that you have the story in the

556
00:27:53,310 --> 00:27:50,950
Gospel as translated a terrible

557
00:27:54,930 --> 00:27:53,320
translations in English and if you read

558
00:27:56,909 --> 00:27:54,940
it in Greek it's quite interesting it

559
00:27:58,409 --> 00:27:56,919
says a lot of other thing with the whole

560
00:28:00,750 --> 00:27:58,419
not just this start with a lot of other

561
00:28:02,909 --> 00:28:00,760
things so it's uh it's really anybody's

562
00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:02,919
guess and really is all a matter of

563
00:28:07,940 --> 00:28:05,710
faith I suppose ya know what about what

564
00:28:10,020 --> 00:28:07,950
about the Magi were they astrologers

565
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:10,030
well yeah supposedly they were

566
00:28:13,620 --> 00:28:12,490
everything comes it's translated English

567
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:13,630
there's three kings because because

568
00:28:17,490 --> 00:28:15,490
Magus means master and that that's been

569
00:28:19,289 --> 00:28:17,500
interpreted as Kings by some of the

570
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:19,299
English translations which is a mistake

571
00:28:23,730 --> 00:28:21,970
but yeah they were essentially those who

572
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:23,740
had special knowledge and that would

573
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:25,210
generally be considered astrologers

574
00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:27,490
which at the time was the same thing as

575
00:28:34,980 --> 00:28:30,809
astronomers I saw a really hilarious

576
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:34,990
cartoon that I often wondered about then

577
00:28:40,260 --> 00:28:36,970
what frankincense was you had you had

578
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:40,270
the one one may Magus is standing that

579
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:41,530
one of the wise men is standing there

580
00:28:45,180 --> 00:28:43,450
and he said okay we've got the gold and

581
00:28:46,650 --> 00:28:45,190
we have the myrrh but what the heck is

582
00:28:47,970 --> 00:28:46,660
that and the third ones standing there

583
00:28:51,870 --> 00:28:47,980
holding the hand of Frankenstein's

584
00:28:53,460 --> 00:28:51,880
monster breaking frankincense or all the

585
00:28:55,380 --> 00:28:53,470
kids with Lao sounds like Frankenstein

586
00:28:56,820 --> 00:28:55,390
so that but I'm sure that that is an

587
00:29:00,330 --> 00:28:56,830
apocryphal story didn't quite happen

588
00:29:01,380 --> 00:29:00,340
exactly as told that way but and of

589
00:29:04,620 --> 00:29:01,390
course that's the reason why we give

590
00:29:06,450 --> 00:29:04,630
gifts at Christmas was there are two

591
00:29:07,530 --> 00:29:06,460
reasons for that one is the gift of the

592
00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:07,540
gifts of the major either

593
00:29:14,370 --> 00:29:10,510
gold frankincense or Frankenstein and

594
00:29:15,659 --> 00:29:14,380
myrrh and also st. Nicholas this

595
00:29:16,409 --> 00:29:15,669
incredible guy if you look at my

596
00:29:18,390 --> 00:29:16,419
Facebook page

597
00:29:20,190 --> 00:29:18,400
you know how much love how many great

598
00:29:22,590 --> 00:29:20,200
things and amazing things do you have to

599
00:29:24,060 --> 00:29:22,600
do for people to be remembered across

600
00:29:26,130 --> 00:29:24,070
seventeen hundred years of history with

601
00:29:28,409 --> 00:29:26,140
the love which Saint Nicholas is is

602
00:29:29,549 --> 00:29:28,419
remembered and people say oh you know

603
00:29:30,659 --> 00:29:29,559
Santa Claus you're gonna tell your

604
00:29:32,039 --> 00:29:30,669
children and then they're gonna think

605
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:32,049
you're Liars when they get older and

606
00:29:36,370 --> 00:29:34,090
they're devastated when they find out

607
00:29:38,650 --> 00:29:36,380
well my children including bed whom you

608
00:29:41,470 --> 00:29:38,660
no my co-host on behind the paranormal

609
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:41,480
was he was brought up with stories of

610
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:43,250
Saint Nicholas a Nicholas is real and

611
00:29:49,390 --> 00:29:46,130
I'll tell you folks that there were some

612
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:49,400
years when there were things under that

613
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:52,130
Christmas tree that my wife and I did

614
00:29:59,230 --> 00:29:56,450
not put there you know and Saint

615
00:30:00,970 --> 00:29:59,240
Nicholas is very real to us a real guy

616
00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:00,980
if you look at our we use this sort of

617
00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:03,679
multiverse approach that all all time in

618
00:30:08,730 --> 00:30:05,809
all past and future of simultaneous you

619
00:30:11,740 --> 00:30:08,740
still out there so hey why not

620
00:30:13,060 --> 00:30:11,750
you know Paul we want we want to thank

621
00:30:16,390 --> 00:30:13,070
you for joining us here and in

622
00:30:18,940 --> 00:30:16,400
celebrating under the the lights of the

623
00:30:25,299 --> 00:30:18,950
Christmas tree and telling us the story

624
00:30:29,890 --> 00:30:25,309
of no mistletoe right not unless Tina

625
00:30:32,620 --> 00:30:29,900
and I in you you and your family and

626
00:30:35,380 --> 00:30:32,630
then especially I have a great holiday

627
00:30:36,970 --> 00:30:35,390
and and a new year and we'll be talking

628
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:36,980
to you soon and don't forget to listen

629
00:30:42,730 --> 00:30:40,610
to behind the paranormal and we'll be

630
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:42,740
right back with Millie guest thank you

631
00:30:48,399 --> 00:30:43,250
Paul

632
00:30:54,390 --> 00:30:48,409
okay good night all Christmas god bless

633
00:30:57,220 --> 00:30:54,400
us everyone we three kings of merriment

634
00:30:59,169 --> 00:30:57,230
you know that it's funny that he should

635
00:31:01,750 --> 00:30:59,179
talk about you know mysterious presents

636
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:01,760
kind of turn it up under his tree

637
00:31:06,039 --> 00:31:04,130
because you know I've run across quite a

638
00:31:08,110 --> 00:31:06,049
few stories I mean yeah they may be

639
00:31:11,860 --> 00:31:08,120
anecdotal stories but of people who

640
00:31:13,870 --> 00:31:11,870
claim that they have actually seen Santa

641
00:31:16,450 --> 00:31:13,880
Claus you know like in their house or

642
00:31:20,220 --> 00:31:16,460
you know outside with a sleigh and

643
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:20,230
reindeer and stuff so I mean there's

644
00:31:25,330 --> 00:31:23,330
whether or not you believe in Santa

645
00:31:28,510 --> 00:31:25,340
Claus or Saint Nicholas or not there

646
00:31:31,620 --> 00:31:28,520
there have been a lot of situations

647
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:31,630
where people have actually had

648
00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:35,570
visitations from somebody at least that

649
00:31:41,470 --> 00:31:38,289
looks like their traditional Santa Claus

650
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:41,480
my cats are are stationed at every

651
00:31:47,009 --> 00:31:44,210
window looking for him in his sleigh in

652
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:50,590
well the last time that let's say the

653
00:31:56,409 --> 00:31:52,370
last time that my daughter check the

654
00:32:02,769 --> 00:31:56,419
NORAD radar for Santa Claus he was in

655
00:32:10,210 --> 00:32:02,779
Brazil so I know how my cats could take

656
00:32:11,889 --> 00:32:10,220
a nap so now Diane is are you expecting

657
00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:11,899
Santa Claus to bring your cats anything

658
00:32:15,070 --> 00:32:14,240
for Christmas I know ours they always

659
00:32:17,950 --> 00:32:15,080
get catnip

660
00:32:25,330 --> 00:32:17,960
yeah catnip is all they really care

661
00:32:29,409 --> 00:32:25,340
about catnip and food boy so fine that's

662
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:29,419
pretty much like me yes yeah in Indian

663
00:32:37,659 --> 00:32:35,690
food and toys I guess you know what my

664
00:32:39,940 --> 00:32:37,669
toy I got about go out and buy myself a

665
00:32:41,500 --> 00:32:39,950
new laptop which I don't consider too

666
00:32:44,379 --> 00:32:41,510
much of a toy they I'd consider a

667
00:32:46,539 --> 00:32:44,389
nuisance to some degree yeah after you

668
00:32:48,039 --> 00:32:46,549
after you have three Kindles in your

669
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:48,049
house you don't want to sit there and

670
00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:55,010
try to master a laptop again but maybe

671
00:33:02,259 --> 00:32:57,200
maybe st. Nicholas will put one under

672
00:33:05,759 --> 00:33:02,269
your tree - okay and I understand I

673
00:33:07,259 --> 00:33:05,769
understand we have Sharla on the line

674
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:07,269
yeah

675
00:33:15,220 --> 00:33:11,570
well Merry Christmas Oh Merry Christmas

676
00:33:18,269 --> 00:33:15,230
- yeah yeah you know I I believe we

677
00:33:21,820 --> 00:33:18,279
proud temperature-wise we probably beat

678
00:33:24,129 --> 00:33:21,830
Tucson this afternoon I'll try in a

679
00:33:27,430 --> 00:33:24,139
minute let's see I'm getting my

680
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:27,440
dashboard up yeah I can have all this

681
00:33:34,930 --> 00:33:32,570
weather right at my fingertips Oh

682
00:33:36,850 --> 00:33:34,940
actually no different for people for

683
00:33:41,250 --> 00:33:36,860
people who don't our listeners who might

684
00:33:44,379 --> 00:33:41,260
not be familiar with Sharla as Sharla is

685
00:33:47,860 --> 00:33:44,389
the the queen of the paranormal I call

686
00:33:50,980 --> 00:33:47,870
her in in the the Tucson area we have

687
00:33:53,529 --> 00:33:50,990
investigated the UFOs in Sedona had all

688
00:33:57,669 --> 00:33:53,539
sorts of synchronicities and have dug

689
00:33:59,740 --> 00:33:57,679
for treasure in Jerome sort of Wow yes

690
00:34:01,419 --> 00:33:59,750
yeah I'm the queen of the paranormal

691
00:34:05,919 --> 00:34:01,429
it has to be because I'm from New

692
00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:05,929
Orleans what do you know well that is

693
00:34:14,020 --> 00:34:08,720
the publisher a long time in Tucson with

694
00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:14,030
New Orleans is my home but uh 73 degrees

695
00:34:19,869 --> 00:34:16,250
in New Orleans how do you like that well

696
00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:19,879
and how about it's your son and to fajn

697
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:25,760
it's 50 degrees New York 2060 for what

698
00:34:34,990 --> 00:34:32,090
it was yeah you noticed that yes indeed

699
00:34:37,990 --> 00:34:35,000
yes so how are you know you have Diane

700
00:34:40,450 --> 00:34:38,000
of course has all her cats and dogs and

701
00:34:43,330 --> 00:34:40,460
and deer in the woods near the house and

702
00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:43,340
Tim has a couple of cats and I'm pet

703
00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:45,919
list although actually I do have Diane

704
00:34:56,830 --> 00:34:53,510
she's my patron saint now I do actually

705
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:56,840
have a cat that I share with my friend

706
00:35:01,480 --> 00:34:57,530
April

707
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:01,490
we call him meatball because he is a

708
00:35:09,700 --> 00:35:05,450
quite quite a hefty little kitty and he

709
00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:09,710
also likes his that a catnip toys and

710
00:35:15,609 --> 00:35:13,040
and the cans of food that we we bring

711
00:35:17,530 --> 00:35:15,619
him all the time we have them delivered

712
00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:17,540
by Amazon and they're stacked up a

713
00:35:21,730 --> 00:35:19,910
pretty high on top of the the fridge and

714
00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:21,740
so we want to say Merry Christmas

715
00:35:30,670 --> 00:35:25,040
through our buddy Earl keep on truckin

716
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:30,680
and eating there you go go go go go

717
00:35:38,770 --> 00:35:34,250
meatball you baby yeah I'm here are you

718
00:35:39,940 --> 00:35:38,780
there yeah Earl Earl is the name of the

719
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:39,950
cat yes uh-huh

720
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:47,210
he's the cat he is my he's kind of my

721
00:36:00,910 --> 00:35:57,770
adopted son yes but slide you know we're

722
00:36:03,820 --> 00:36:00,920
all animal people here you know I won't

723
00:36:09,250 --> 00:36:03,830
even tell you how many dogs I have well

724
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:09,260
I get happy when when I hear about Diane

725
00:36:21,359 --> 00:36:12,250
because I feel like I'm not the only one

726
00:36:22,589 --> 00:36:21,369
you know I happy you know they're always

727
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:22,599
smiling

728
00:36:32,849 --> 00:36:26,970
well sure Lyle did you ever notice that

729
00:36:37,650 --> 00:36:32,859
unconditional love always coming from

730
00:36:40,770 --> 00:36:37,660
their eyes and they smile to their their

731
00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:40,780
little mugs get sad too you know so yeah

732
00:36:44,910 --> 00:36:43,510
yeah you're right yeah sure Charlotte

733
00:36:47,490 --> 00:36:44,920
we've got to move on to our next guest

734
00:36:49,410 --> 00:36:47,500
here but I want to thank you for coming

735
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:49,420
on and spending a little bit of

736
00:37:06,109 --> 00:36:53,050
Christmas Eve with us and the save a

737
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:10,200
okay now we're waiting for market

738
00:37:15,890 --> 00:37:13,330
Brinkerhoff to to come down from outer

739
00:37:20,310 --> 00:37:15,900
space he was going to tell us about

740
00:37:23,370 --> 00:37:20,320
Christmas on other planets I know he is

741
00:37:27,089 --> 00:37:23,380
up with his significant significant

742
00:37:28,950 --> 00:37:27,099
other in Connecticut and no doubt their

743
00:37:33,329 --> 00:37:28,960
UFO spotting but they should be getting

744
00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:33,339
in and putting on that skype and if he

745
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:36,400
isn't then we will have to tell a

746
00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:38,650
Christmas story Tim right that's right

747
00:37:44,370 --> 00:37:40,720
that's right I have all kinds of

748
00:37:46,050 --> 00:37:44,380
Christmas stories you want me to play

749
00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:46,060
that Christmas song scene you have never

750
00:37:50,609 --> 00:37:48,609
heard the term easily yes I can't I

751
00:37:52,859 --> 00:37:50,619
can't believe Tim as much as you've been

752
00:37:54,780 --> 00:37:52,869
in around radio wait a minute Jimmy

753
00:38:00,030 --> 00:37:54,790
market mark is calling me I don't know

754
00:38:03,060 --> 00:38:00,040
why that is I don't dare answer this

755
00:38:04,740 --> 00:38:03,070
girl get disconnected from you guys well

756
00:38:07,230 --> 00:38:04,750
I know I you know I said marker requests

757
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:07,240
on skype and told him to to connect with

758
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:09,970
me you know but sometimes what happens

759
00:38:13,230 --> 00:38:11,530
is they don't realize they they see me

760
00:38:18,060 --> 00:38:13,240
and even though I tell them who I am and

761
00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:18,070
stuff like that I've told them we'll

762
00:38:22,380 --> 00:38:20,310
have time after the break well have a

763
00:38:25,109 --> 00:38:22,390
little each of these things only two

764
00:38:26,730 --> 00:38:25,119
minutes this is by Bob Evers I don't but

765
00:38:28,140 --> 00:38:26,740
can't believe you've never heard of the

766
00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:28,150
song by Bob rivers

767
00:38:37,829 --> 00:38:31,119
I have not okay sure we're gonna play

768
00:38:41,370 --> 00:38:37,839
this is Barbara's the chip I'll never

769
00:38:42,690 --> 00:38:41,380
think of Christmas the same and I get

770
00:38:43,410 --> 00:38:42,700
this little girl to sing it which is

771
00:38:47,460 --> 00:38:43,420
priceless

772
00:38:50,609 --> 00:38:47,470
you know me of a chimney I had in

773
00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:50,619
Ireland it had something in it and then

774
00:38:55,050 --> 00:38:52,480
to all the smoke came back into the

775
00:39:04,589 --> 00:38:55,060
house and I don't know what was stuck up

776
00:39:06,329 --> 00:39:04,599
there but yeah yes we only in my whole

777
00:39:07,859 --> 00:39:06,339
house back in New England had something

778
00:39:10,260 --> 00:39:07,869
like that happened once it was a raccoon

779
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:10,270
that got in a lot of houses now you have

780
00:39:12,780 --> 00:39:11,890
these little metal things you put on the

781
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:12,790
chimneys but we had a really nice

782
00:39:15,839 --> 00:39:14,050
chimney and you had a Guanyin the

783
00:39:16,980 --> 00:39:15,849
chimney sweeps that would come over well

784
00:39:19,140 --> 00:39:16,990
apparently one of the Christmas a

785
00:39:20,490 --> 00:39:19,150
raccoon or squirrel or something got up

786
00:39:24,930 --> 00:39:20,500
on the house and fell in the chimney and

787
00:39:26,550 --> 00:39:24,940
we put the fireplace on now if we down

788
00:39:35,550 --> 00:39:26,560
south we cook up have a little Barbie

789
00:39:37,770 --> 00:39:35,560
but that song reminds me of something

790
00:39:40,349 --> 00:39:37,780
from dr. Demento I mean I don't know if

791
00:39:45,660 --> 00:39:40,359
many people remember dr. Demento anymore

792
00:39:46,829 --> 00:39:45,670
oh yeah and he would always have you

793
00:39:49,050 --> 00:39:46,839
know songs just like that at

794
00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:49,060
Christmastime so you know that it was

795
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:51,760
like allan sherman's the 12 gifts of

796
00:40:01,290 --> 00:39:58,450
christmas we're bringing mark on now we

797
00:40:03,690 --> 00:40:01,300
got mark on with you know we came out of

798
00:40:09,230 --> 00:40:03,700
the air with the santa claus so marks on

799
00:40:27,180 --> 00:40:13,410
okay and now it's all messed up I need

800
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:27,190
to turn your audio down all right I'm

801
00:40:33,930 --> 00:40:28,690
we're gonna take mark off until he gets

802
00:40:36,340 --> 00:40:33,940
its audios I'm like having an acid trip

803
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:36,350
but I've never taken acid

804
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:41,330
it's nothing like live radio well that's

805
00:40:43,660 --> 00:40:42,410
what happens when you try to when you

806
00:40:45,010 --> 00:40:43,670
bring people on like in the middle of

807
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:45,020
segments you just like are you know

808
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:48,170
bring them on let's see what happens

809
00:40:54,970 --> 00:40:52,570
[Laughter]

810
00:40:56,110 --> 00:40:54,980
we'll get him on here you know no

811
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:56,120
problem whatever and so I just want to

812
00:40:58,330 --> 00:40:56,930
make sure I don't bring it back I'll

813
00:40:59,620 --> 00:40:58,340
make sure you get his audio levels all

814
00:41:04,210 --> 00:40:59,630
set and stuff like that open these

815
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:04,220
columns let's uh alright again yeah

816
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:06,250
let's let's try it again let's see yeah

817
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:08,410
hold on one second

818
00:41:11,890 --> 00:41:10,250
Mark's like you know why'd you cut me

819
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:11,900
off I know well we want to make sure the

820
00:41:16,690 --> 00:41:14,690
audio is all set so mark you there yeah

821
00:41:18,250 --> 00:41:16,700
how's it now Oh see there we go we got

822
00:41:19,870 --> 00:41:18,260
mark back on from the North Pole you

823
00:41:22,060 --> 00:41:19,880
know what it is it's that trip from the

824
00:41:23,530 --> 00:41:22,070
North Pole you know you're the Santa you

825
00:41:26,340 --> 00:41:23,540
would think with all this technology he

826
00:41:32,890 --> 00:41:26,350
would get that stuff all situated so

827
00:41:34,090 --> 00:41:32,900
it's the Scout ship over here I know I

828
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:34,100
don't they've taken Tim though they

829
00:41:45,060 --> 00:41:41,210
might have taken Tim back he's been

830
00:41:49,900 --> 00:41:47,890
well that's okay well mark this is Tim

831
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:49,910
Schwartz I'm really great to have you

832
00:41:59,470 --> 00:41:57,290
with us tonight are you doing I heard I

833
00:42:01,720 --> 00:41:59,480
think I heard maybe Tim Beckley chuckles

834
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:01,730
well I I'm still trying to get out of

835
00:42:09,130 --> 00:42:07,490
the darn Santa suit you know it's not

836
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:09,140
the Santa suit it's the girdle that you

837
00:42:18,910 --> 00:42:14,450
had to put on all right yeah probably so

838
00:42:20,980 --> 00:42:18,920
problem hey Mark how are ya okay yeah

839
00:42:28,030 --> 00:42:20,990
how are you guys Phyllis Phyllis is here

840
00:42:38,290 --> 00:42:28,040
too okay why don't we all sing a song

841
00:42:41,410 --> 00:42:38,300
sing this song is something rather hey

842
00:42:43,900 --> 00:42:41,420
mark so what what's Christmas like on

843
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:43,910
other planets

844
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:45,890
well it's not the same as on Earth of

845
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:49,130
course because well let's put it this

846
00:42:52,980 --> 00:42:50,210
way at the tea

847
00:42:56,050 --> 00:42:52,990
as I came of course Yeshua at the time

848
00:42:58,839 --> 00:42:56,060
has been to other places other planet

849
00:43:02,320 --> 00:42:58,849
systems and didn't go through the same

850
00:43:04,089 --> 00:43:02,330
ordeal he went through here so in a way

851
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:04,099
it's like the Christ did being comes to

852
00:43:09,220 --> 00:43:06,170
visit your planet with information and

853
00:43:11,530 --> 00:43:09,230
they accept it and they understand and

854
00:43:14,260 --> 00:43:11,540
so it's a celebration of the Christ hood

855
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:14,270
of planets and things and as they get

856
00:43:19,720 --> 00:43:16,970
physical 3d dense physical planets and

857
00:43:21,700 --> 00:43:19,730
on the next dimensions over but not of

858
00:43:24,250 --> 00:43:21,710
all planets have that kind of a

859
00:43:25,540 --> 00:43:24,260
celebration it's just a certain one

860
00:43:27,910 --> 00:43:25,550
instead of going through certain things

861
00:43:31,170 --> 00:43:27,920
and believe me if we've asked questions

862
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:31,180
on the other side and ask questions and

863
00:43:35,770 --> 00:43:34,130
let's say Sunanda yeshua yahushua he's

864
00:43:37,570 --> 00:43:35,780
told me he's going through different

865
00:43:41,230 --> 00:43:37,580
experiences on different places in

866
00:43:46,270 --> 00:43:41,240
different galaxies as well and let's put

867
00:43:50,589 --> 00:43:46,280
it this way on on earth it wasn't

868
00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:50,599
accepted the same way so well you did

869
00:43:55,300 --> 00:43:52,880
right we'd rise up and come back yeah we

870
00:43:57,099 --> 00:43:55,310
got mark we got connected mark we got

871
00:43:58,390 --> 00:43:57,109
connected a little late here but we're

872
00:44:00,460 --> 00:43:58,400
gonna have a commercial break then we'll

873
00:44:03,510 --> 00:44:00,470
be back we have a Shawn Castile that's

874
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:03,520
going to tell us a a Dickens story for

875
00:44:07,690 --> 00:44:06,410
Christmas but why don't you hold on to

876
00:44:09,070 --> 00:44:07,700
the line and we'll get a few more

877
00:44:12,339 --> 00:44:09,080
minutes at the butcher

878
00:44:13,839 --> 00:44:12,349
they're in with you perhaps after that

879
00:44:16,530 --> 00:44:13,849
they're showing them we'll knock out one

880
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:16,540
of our Christmas carols yes for you oh

881
00:44:24,579 --> 00:44:20,290
well you know man if it's here

882
00:44:27,339 --> 00:44:24,589
well the disease does he sing Christmas

883
00:44:31,660 --> 00:44:27,349
carols I don't know I don't know we put

884
00:44:33,609 --> 00:44:31,670
we hung a holiday ham on the tree how

885
00:44:37,089 --> 00:44:33,619
would Bigfoot the hell would Bigfoot

886
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:37,099
bring that ham over a year more all

887
00:44:43,290 --> 00:44:49,110
[Music]

888
00:44:56,070 --> 00:44:53,560
explode the bazaars are your e-ticket

889
00:44:59,350 --> 00:44:56,080
ride into the world of the paranoid

890
00:45:02,370 --> 00:44:59,360
strap yourself in as we traverse the

891
00:45:07,750 --> 00:45:02,380
universe exploring the unexplained UFO

892
00:45:11,500 --> 00:45:07,760
of ghosts Lost Worlds cryptozoology

893
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:11,510
waters as well as other dimensions it's

894
00:45:18,130 --> 00:45:15,250
time to take back the night last night

895
00:45:21,310 --> 00:45:18,140
now you are electrifying hosts of

896
00:45:28,420 --> 00:45:21,320
exploring the bizarre Timothy Begley and

897
00:45:31,290 --> 00:45:28,430
team sports you know we've got so many

898
00:45:34,030 --> 00:45:31,300
people in the exploring the bizarre

899
00:45:38,770 --> 00:45:34,040
Christmas living room that the tree

900
00:45:40,780 --> 00:45:38,780
almost fell over oh so you want to get

901
00:45:44,260 --> 00:45:40,790
down you want to get down from the tree

902
00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:44,270
Tim okay you know it's all right we've

903
00:45:48,370 --> 00:45:45,710
got we've got a special we've got a

904
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:48,380
special a friend of ours who's crawling

905
00:45:55,050 --> 00:45:51,170
into which I say a Merry Christmas and

906
00:45:57,610 --> 00:45:55,060
vice versa it's Alan Ben's from Tucson

907
00:46:06,940 --> 00:45:57,620
Alan how are you spending your Christmas

908
00:46:11,260 --> 00:46:06,950
Eve spending my Christmas Eve we copy of

909
00:46:12,850 --> 00:46:11,270
William Brandis the gods of Eden well

910
00:46:14,860 --> 00:46:12,860
you know he's promised to come on the

911
00:46:18,820 --> 00:46:14,870
show he doesn't do very many programs

912
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:18,830
but by gosh by golly we are going to get

913
00:46:23,470 --> 00:46:21,290
him on the program because we're not

914
00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:23,480
like other shows here at exploring the

915
00:46:28,090 --> 00:46:25,760
bizarre we get the best the most

916
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:28,100
important researchers and people that

917
00:46:32,290 --> 00:46:30,290
you know who have something to say that

918
00:46:36,430 --> 00:46:32,300
haven't been on over and over and over

919
00:46:39,730 --> 00:46:36,440
and over again anyway are the cactus in

920
00:46:41,500 --> 00:46:39,740
bloom out there Alan well they have

921
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:41,510
enclosed it over that's one thing for

922
00:46:53,140 --> 00:46:49,610
sure yeah it's been probably fifties and

923
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:53,150
sixties something like that which is a

924
00:46:59,230 --> 00:46:55,610
little bit cool for this time of year

925
00:47:01,330 --> 00:46:59,240
but anyway yeah and we've got where the

926
00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:01,340
New York is the hot spots we got up to

927
00:47:06,970 --> 00:47:03,760
73 today

928
00:47:09,010 --> 00:47:06,980
so there you go very good yeah you know

929
00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:09,020
put on put on the air Schwartzman the

930
00:47:14,830 --> 00:47:13,250
Sun Tan Lotion what do you think I got

931
00:47:18,190 --> 00:47:14,840
on right now I got the air conditioner

932
00:47:20,950 --> 00:47:18,200
on the window open and I'm wishing a

933
00:47:23,350 --> 00:47:20,960
society a merry sight to see Ellen well

934
00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:23,360
okay if you saw me in my Santa Claus

935
00:47:26,890 --> 00:47:25,040
outfit and you had a choice between the

936
00:47:28,900 --> 00:47:26,900
two of them anyway Alan I want to thank

937
00:47:31,359 --> 00:47:28,910
you for calling up and saying hello and

938
00:47:33,870 --> 00:47:31,369
now we've got another we got another

939
00:47:36,310 --> 00:47:33,880
guest here all the way over there from

940
00:47:38,620 --> 00:47:36,320
California yeah take care Alan thank you

941
00:47:42,510 --> 00:47:38,630
merry Christmas to you and yours Sean

942
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:42,520
Castile my one of my favorite

943
00:47:48,790 --> 00:47:45,050
individuals in the paranormal world and

944
00:47:50,740 --> 00:47:48,800
co-author of many of our books including

945
00:47:53,590 --> 00:47:50,750
wasn't did we just work down with Paul

946
00:47:56,410 --> 00:47:53,600
you know called spooky treasure troves

947
00:47:57,690 --> 00:47:56,420
and it's a hack of a book that's a heck

948
00:47:59,200 --> 00:47:57,700
of a book it tells you how to find

949
00:48:01,870 --> 00:47:59,210
buried treasure

950
00:48:04,150 --> 00:48:01,880
just listen to the ghost and to the UFOs

951
00:48:05,620 --> 00:48:04,160
where some of them may put a curse on

952
00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:05,630
you where you're trying to find it but

953
00:48:11,349 --> 00:48:07,520
millions and millions of dollars we got

954
00:48:12,820 --> 00:48:11,359
to do a show on that Sean that coming up

955
00:48:14,859 --> 00:48:12,830
in the next couple weeks but Sean how

956
00:48:16,570 --> 00:48:14,869
are you spending your Christmas I'm

957
00:48:20,020 --> 00:48:16,580
gonna be gathering here in Ventura with

958
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:20,030
my family reading normal seasonal cool

959
00:48:25,390 --> 00:48:22,490
weather high in the 60s

960
00:48:27,670 --> 00:48:25,400
so it's cold enough to put a coat on and

961
00:48:29,380 --> 00:48:27,680
zip it up and so well you could you can

962
00:48:31,990 --> 00:48:29,390
borrow mine because I won't be needing

963
00:48:35,950 --> 00:48:32,000
one for the next couple of days but but

964
00:48:38,349 --> 00:48:35,960
I hear I hear Sean that you have a story

965
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:38,359
to relate to us well you know I'm

966
00:48:41,140 --> 00:48:39,890
probably not the first one to think of

967
00:48:43,810 --> 00:48:41,150
this he's probably occurred to other

968
00:48:44,140 --> 00:48:43,820
people too but it struck me over the

969
00:48:47,170 --> 00:48:44,150
years

970
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:47,180
about Charles Dickens story a Christmas

971
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:50,210
carol the story of the miser Scrooge and

972
00:48:55,570 --> 00:48:53,450
how he becomes a human being again this

973
00:48:58,359 --> 00:48:55,580
is the structure of the story is similar

974
00:49:00,460 --> 00:48:58,369
to an abduction experience he goes to

975
00:49:01,900 --> 00:49:00,470
bed at night the spirits come in the

976
00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:01,910
middle of the night and wake them up and

977
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:03,200
they show them these are life-changing

978
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:06,050
visions and so forth and then they put

979
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:08,210
them back in bed just like a typical

980
00:49:13,109 --> 00:49:10,010
abduction you know you have the

981
00:49:16,329 --> 00:49:13,119
awakening and then the capture and the

982
00:49:18,279 --> 00:49:16,339
movement into the ship and then whatever

983
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:18,289
shown by the aliens during the

984
00:49:22,150 --> 00:49:20,450
experience and then you simply return to

985
00:49:25,569 --> 00:49:22,160
dead you tucked in like a baby again

986
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:25,579
when it's all over but the idea of alien

987
00:49:31,359 --> 00:49:28,249
contact as transformative in a positive

988
00:49:33,069 --> 00:49:31,369
spiritual way is sort of odd it's

989
00:49:34,569 --> 00:49:33,079
parallel divided by the storing in A

990
00:49:37,690 --> 00:49:34,579
Christmas Carol

991
00:49:40,839 --> 00:49:37,700
they're screwed reconnects with his own

992
00:49:43,509 --> 00:49:40,849
humaneness and and begins to love the

993
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:43,519
seller man again after he's you know if

994
00:49:50,019 --> 00:49:45,170
that's actually scared into it babies

995
00:49:52,779 --> 00:49:50,029
experience hoo-hoo-hoo taken away and

996
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:52,789
show him the error of his ways and with

997
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:54,650
it and they deal with a kind of

998
00:50:00,940 --> 00:49:57,170
authority then they're within their

999
00:50:03,459 --> 00:50:00,950
rights to exercise their that their

1000
00:50:05,789 --> 00:50:03,469
transforming transformation process on

1001
00:50:07,870 --> 00:50:05,799
Scrooge you know hmm

1002
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:07,880
so I thought that was kind of

1003
00:50:10,809 --> 00:50:09,650
interesting there's a lot of parallels

1004
00:50:12,459 --> 00:50:10,819
like that I think Whitley Street would

1005
00:50:14,589 --> 00:50:12,469
do something similar with that before he

1006
00:50:17,109 --> 00:50:14,599
was aware of his abduction experiences

1007
00:50:19,299 --> 00:50:17,119
he was writing our horror novels that

1008
00:50:20,950 --> 00:50:19,309
that that's the elements of the

1009
00:50:24,190 --> 00:50:20,960
abduction experience would receive

1010
00:50:29,650 --> 00:50:24,200
manifested in vampires or wolves or

1011
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:29,660
something no yeah that would lead us to

1012
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:31,609
believe that we're we we had Grant

1013
00:50:37,749 --> 00:50:35,690
Cameron on last week a Sean and one of

1014
00:50:40,329 --> 00:50:37,759
the things that we talked about was how

1015
00:50:44,410 --> 00:50:40,339
he felt and I guess I go along with this

1016
00:50:49,209 --> 00:50:44,420
that some of the rock musicians of today

1017
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:49,219
were being influenced by well also

1018
00:50:53,799 --> 00:50:51,410
terrestrials aliens whatever you want to

1019
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:53,809
call them are you familiar with the the

1020
00:51:00,489 --> 00:50:57,410
poem oh my goodness I'm gonna mess up

1021
00:51:02,140 --> 00:51:00,499
here it's about the the dome I can't

1022
00:51:04,329 --> 00:51:02,150
remember who wrote it but it sounded

1023
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:04,339
like it - it took place on another

1024
00:51:15,789 --> 00:51:09,410
planet yeah I can't think of the

1025
00:51:18,930 --> 00:51:15,799
author's name but I do that's right

1026
00:51:21,819 --> 00:51:18,940
how stately pleasure-dome did decree yes

1027
00:51:23,579 --> 00:51:21,829
right I know that like I really know

1028
00:51:26,829 --> 00:51:23,589
you're saying about the aliens being a

1029
00:51:29,289 --> 00:51:26,839
cultural influence on some sort of

1030
00:51:30,330 --> 00:51:29,299
unconscious level I think we wrote about

1031
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:30,340
grant

1032
00:51:36,430 --> 00:51:34,370
we did the book on the Shirley MacLaine

1033
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:36,440
book sterling things idiot

1034
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:38,210
I think that was a book where we

1035
00:51:43,660 --> 00:51:41,290
included some material from Grant and

1036
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:43,670
alien influence on people like Neil

1037
00:51:47,230 --> 00:51:45,410
Young mm-hmm

1038
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:47,240
and of course I've done I've done I

1039
00:51:52,090 --> 00:51:49,010
wouldn't extensively about what I feel

1040
00:51:54,340 --> 00:51:52,100
is an alien influence I'm Bob Dylan hmm

1041
00:51:57,490 --> 00:51:54,350
I do think they make their presence felt

1042
00:51:59,230 --> 00:51:57,500
they're showing artists like Dylan and

1043
00:52:00,820 --> 00:51:59,240
Neil Young and Charles Dickens they're

1044
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:00,830
showing them important ideas on an

1045
00:52:07,660 --> 00:52:05,690
unconscious level and and you know most

1046
00:52:10,210 --> 00:52:07,670
wave writers have amused they asked the

1047
00:52:13,240 --> 00:52:10,220
answer sort of unconscious connection to

1048
00:52:15,610 --> 00:52:13,250
some kind of creative force and it's

1049
00:52:19,300 --> 00:52:15,620
channeled through them and it comes out

1050
00:52:21,610 --> 00:52:19,310
as celebrated art I think that's a

1051
00:52:25,540 --> 00:52:21,620
conscious thing that the aliens do and

1052
00:52:27,610 --> 00:52:25,550
almost no artist is no great artist is

1053
00:52:30,430 --> 00:52:27,620
just free from some kind of influence

1054
00:52:33,070 --> 00:52:30,440
like that some kind of Muse that that

1055
00:52:36,220 --> 00:52:33,080
drives that that I don't know union with

1056
00:52:37,720 --> 00:52:36,230
the universe or whatever and and mine

1057
00:52:40,690 --> 00:52:37,730
yeah my point about Charles Dickens is

1058
00:52:42,730 --> 00:52:40,700
that's another example of it the clear

1059
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:42,740
parallels between excluding experience

1060
00:52:45,580 --> 00:52:44,090
and the standard patterns of an

1061
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:45,590
abduction experience I think they're you

1062
00:52:50,770 --> 00:52:47,450
know very clear what well whenever

1063
00:52:54,220 --> 00:52:50,780
whenever I say Oh humbug I'll never

1064
00:52:56,050 --> 00:52:54,230
think of it in the in the same way you

1065
00:52:57,790 --> 00:52:56,060
know they're really there's a really

1066
00:53:01,030 --> 00:52:57,800
happy scene in the Christmas Carol where

1067
00:53:03,340 --> 00:53:01,040
the ghost of mr. bass takes Scrooge back

1068
00:53:06,100 --> 00:53:03,350
to a party being thrown by one of us

1069
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:06,110
Regis former employers yes every week

1070
00:53:12,300 --> 00:53:08,810
and federally was not exactly a witch

1071
00:53:14,650 --> 00:53:12,310
but tttt treated his employees well and

1072
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:14,660
someone comments he's made us so happy

1073
00:53:19,870 --> 00:53:17,930
with just a little bit of money I think

1074
00:53:24,390 --> 00:53:19,880
of you Jim what of what a kindly

1075
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:24,400
benevolent boss you are oh my goodness

1076
00:53:30,940 --> 00:53:27,970
there will be something extra for you

1077
00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:30,950
I'm assuming he's getting a portion his

1078
00:53:41,470 --> 00:53:40,360
but you see my point you know we were in

1079
00:53:44,020 --> 00:53:41,480
some ways they're sort of a low-budget

1080
00:53:47,140 --> 00:53:44,030
operation but we care about each other

1081
00:53:49,270 --> 00:53:47,150
and and and you answer so you've

1082
00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:49,280
established a leadership pattern of you

1083
00:53:54,730 --> 00:53:50,720
care about us and we care about each

1084
00:53:58,780 --> 00:53:54,740
other so either God you are you are

1085
00:54:00,100 --> 00:53:58,790
indeed an inspiration for the holiday

1086
00:54:03,430 --> 00:54:00,110
season

1087
00:54:07,780 --> 00:54:03,440
Sean and we thank you for being on and

1088
00:54:10,030 --> 00:54:07,790
we're going to get over to China in a

1089
00:54:12,820 --> 00:54:10,040
minute or so I believe we're gonna we're

1090
00:54:15,340 --> 00:54:12,830
gonna try to make a call over to to

1091
00:54:17,710 --> 00:54:15,350
mainland China where our friend a Bruce

1092
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:17,720
is waiting for us now Bruce not only

1093
00:54:22,450 --> 00:54:19,850
believes in dragons but he's at seeing

1094
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:22,460
them and not not in China here in the

1095
00:54:26,290 --> 00:54:24,530
the US where he used to live and and

1096
00:54:29,620 --> 00:54:26,300
Bruce and Mark who is still with us you

1097
00:54:32,140 --> 00:54:29,630
still there mark you bet okay here are

1098
00:54:34,450 --> 00:54:32,150
our old friends we're all buddies so

1099
00:54:37,690 --> 00:54:34,460
we're gonna try to hook up on that

1100
00:54:39,870 --> 00:54:37,700
international line in just a second Sean

1101
00:54:42,220 --> 00:54:39,880
once again thank you so much and have a

1102
00:54:45,340 --> 00:54:42,230
merry Christmas to you and your dad and

1103
00:54:47,530 --> 00:54:45,350
your mom and to your daughter and your

1104
00:54:50,260 --> 00:54:47,540
your brother and everybody else you know

1105
00:54:54,070 --> 00:54:50,270
and God bless you again and have a good

1106
00:54:56,610 --> 00:54:54,080
New Year Sean yeah no quickly fine okay

1107
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:02,650
many many new products okay as we as we

1108
00:55:09,910 --> 00:55:06,010
move on into the night across the

1109
00:55:14,170 --> 00:55:09,920
International Dateline Tim right right

1110
00:55:16,510 --> 00:55:14,180
we're just moving along what a world we

1111
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:16,520
live in that we can make these kind of

1112
00:55:29,950 --> 00:55:22,010
connections you know gentlemen mark mark

1113
00:55:31,270 --> 00:55:29,960
ruse hey we're in China now that's right

1114
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:31,280
live from China and I don't know if you

1115
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:33,170
could see my sky picture but it's a

1116
00:55:40,300 --> 00:55:36,290
beast of burden taking in the the stalks

1117
00:55:42,190 --> 00:55:40,310
of the harvest for whatever reasons they

1118
00:55:45,610 --> 00:55:42,200
use it for but it's quite a bit easier

1119
00:55:48,310 --> 00:55:45,620
to see it this is absolutely remarkable

1120
00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:48,320
that we can set here all over the

1121
00:55:54,070 --> 00:55:49,760
country I'm in New York

1122
00:55:57,490 --> 00:55:54,080
and and you know Diane is in Iowa and

1123
00:56:01,660 --> 00:55:57,500
you're in in China we need somebody from

1124
00:56:03,370 --> 00:56:01,670
Timbuktu the original name that was

1125
00:56:05,110 --> 00:56:03,380
going to be the original name of the

1126
00:56:13,540 --> 00:56:05,120
show something about Tim and Tim and Tim

1127
00:56:18,100 --> 00:56:13,550
buck doer it was too cumbersome sure but

1128
00:56:20,170 --> 00:56:18,110
so so Bruce yeah yeah how is is

1129
00:56:21,730 --> 00:56:20,180
Christmas celebrated at all are you

1130
00:56:23,650 --> 00:56:21,740
allowed to celebrate Christmas over

1131
00:56:25,660 --> 00:56:23,660
there well yeah yeah now Christmas is

1132
00:56:27,730 --> 00:56:25,670
basically if I send you a link you'll

1133
00:56:31,150 --> 00:56:27,740
see that Christmas in China is like

1134
00:56:33,340 --> 00:56:31,160
we're China Santa Claus okay we produce

1135
00:56:39,010 --> 00:56:33,350
all the toys so what do you expect

1136
00:56:41,710 --> 00:56:39,020
we're Santa Claus so everybody yes so I

1137
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:41,720
want to send you the current you know a

1138
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:44,450
page link that says the obvious that

1139
00:56:49,810 --> 00:56:46,730
when you are looking at Santa Claus is

1140
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:49,820
driving buses and doing everything yeah

1141
00:56:55,720 --> 00:56:52,010
what can I say is that it's just the way

1142
00:56:59,700 --> 00:56:55,730
it is you know it's celebrated now in a

1143
00:57:02,560 --> 00:56:59,710
non spiritual sense obviously yes yeah

1144
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:02,570
you could say that about it being

1145
00:57:09,490 --> 00:57:06,410
celebrated that way here to know some of

1146
00:57:12,580 --> 00:57:09,500
the malls are still open and like 11

1147
00:57:14,500 --> 00:57:12,590
o'clock and you can order on Amazon and

1148
00:57:16,450 --> 00:57:14,510
a they guarantee like in a big city like

1149
00:57:17,230 --> 00:57:16,460
New York they'll deliver your package in

1150
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:17,240
two hours

1151
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:19,850
sure sure sure sure so yeah you know

1152
00:57:25,690 --> 00:57:22,490
we're still here but now okay yeah I

1153
00:57:28,270 --> 00:57:25,700
think I'm okay what we think of Santa of

1154
00:57:30,790 --> 00:57:28,280
course and his reindeer but in China he

1155
00:57:33,340 --> 00:57:30,800
would be riding with the dragons I

1156
00:57:35,710 --> 00:57:33,350
presume oh no it's always enough for the

1157
00:57:37,030 --> 00:57:35,720
kids you know here I'll send you this

1158
00:57:39,730 --> 00:57:37,040
link when you open it up it's definitely

1159
00:57:41,950 --> 00:57:39,740
commercial because yes only at this time

1160
00:57:43,750 --> 00:57:41,960
of the year the factories run Full Tilt

1161
00:57:45,940 --> 00:57:43,760
to make toys all over the world and the

1162
00:57:48,910 --> 00:57:45,950
pollution rises to levels of you can oh

1163
00:57:51,370 --> 00:57:48,920
I know the public yeah the public has to

1164
00:57:53,140 --> 00:57:51,380
suffer for the for the economy you know

1165
00:57:54,820 --> 00:57:53,150
so that's a thing that has to and I put

1166
00:57:57,370 --> 00:57:54,830
this link up when you go to it you'll

1167
00:58:00,910 --> 00:57:57,380
see all the Santa's of China doing stuff

1168
00:58:01,420 --> 00:58:00,920
all right yeah and yeah you know that's

1169
00:58:02,599 --> 00:58:01,430
funny

1170
00:58:05,239 --> 00:58:02,609
yeah so

1171
00:58:07,460 --> 00:58:05,249
basically yeah no dragons yeah no

1172
00:58:09,529 --> 00:58:07,470
dragons I think that's too esoteric

1173
00:58:12,039 --> 00:58:09,539
for the you know well well what we did

1174
00:58:15,950 --> 00:58:12,049
have we did have a I was in Chinatown

1175
00:58:18,109 --> 00:58:15,960
over the weekend with my niece Dori and

1176
00:58:22,940 --> 00:58:18,119
who I also want to give a shout out to

1177
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:22,950
and and they had a parade which which

1178
00:58:31,819 --> 00:58:26,730
was Santa they had a parade with Santa

1179
00:58:34,460 --> 00:58:31,829
and Dragons oh so they have they have

1180
00:58:36,380 --> 00:58:34,470
combined they have combined the two of

1181
00:58:38,359 --> 00:58:36,390
them here but you you you actually had

1182
00:58:40,940 --> 00:58:38,369
some experiences with a dragon I know we

1183
00:58:43,190 --> 00:58:40,950
don't have that long the time to talk

1184
00:58:43,819 --> 00:58:43,200
about it but you are a believer in

1185
00:58:47,690 --> 00:58:43,829
dragons

1186
00:58:50,089 --> 00:58:47,700
oh yeah well yeah well mark would be

1187
00:58:52,849 --> 00:58:50,099
sooo he's probably well you know the

1188
00:58:56,839 --> 00:58:52,859
version of a dragon here is the way the

1189
00:58:59,089 --> 00:58:56,849
that aspect of Chi is sort of how do you

1190
00:59:01,519 --> 00:58:59,099
say presented to a Chinese person

1191
00:59:03,079 --> 00:59:01,529
personally you know I haven't my dragon

1192
00:59:06,670 --> 00:59:03,089
connection is a little different than my

1193
00:59:09,529 --> 00:59:06,680
wife she's quite the dragon expert but

1194
00:59:11,299 --> 00:59:09,539
you know where do you begin I mean

1195
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:11,309
things of the dragon are of a yang

1196
00:59:16,819 --> 00:59:13,170
nature you know things of the Phoenix

1197
00:59:19,609 --> 00:59:16,829
the rising phoenix RV in nature so maybe

1198
00:59:21,890 --> 00:59:19,619
in the context of what we see

1199
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:21,900
esoterically you know at night and all

1200
00:59:26,630 --> 00:59:24,210
that things that go bump in the night it

1201
00:59:28,279 --> 00:59:26,640
could be part of this yin yang nature of

1202
00:59:29,809 --> 00:59:28,289
you know what goes on here in china

1203
00:59:31,339 --> 00:59:29,819
right different than it would be in west

1204
00:59:32,420 --> 00:59:31,349
palm beach if you know what i'm saying

1205
00:59:34,489 --> 00:59:32,430
right

1206
00:59:36,349 --> 00:59:34,499
well there's yeah I'd like to spend I'd

1207
00:59:39,259 --> 00:59:36,359
like to spend Christmas in both places

1208
00:59:41,660 --> 00:59:39,269
yeah well as you think so you become so

1209
00:59:45,170 --> 00:59:41,670
these kind of features of the minds

1210
00:59:47,870 --> 00:59:45,180
dynamics I think influence some of the

1211
00:59:49,729 --> 00:59:47,880
qualitative nature of what you know I'm

1212
00:59:52,489 --> 00:59:49,739
trying to interpret you know it's not

1213
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:52,499
always my experience it's what my wife's

1214
00:59:57,049 --> 00:59:53,930
who are we losing here

1215
00:59:59,210 --> 00:59:57,059
are you there Tim I'm here I'm here yeah

1216
01:00:04,009 --> 00:59:59,220
yeah okay so we just may have lost

1217
01:00:06,349 --> 01:00:04,019
somebody so meanwhile to answer question

1218
01:00:08,239 --> 01:00:06,359
you know it's a qualitative thing you

1219
01:00:11,269 --> 01:00:08,249
know basically when things are seen you

1220
01:00:13,370 --> 01:00:11,279
have to know exactly is it yang you know

1221
01:00:15,499 --> 01:00:13,380
if it's a yang nature it may be a spirit

1222
01:00:16,310 --> 01:00:15,509
being you know if it's a yin nature it

1223
01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:16,320
may be from the

1224
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:18,000
elemental Kingdom if you know what I'm

1225
01:00:24,260 --> 01:00:20,370
saying much more refined subtle in

1226
01:00:26,180 --> 01:00:24,270
feminine in nature and still worthy you

1227
01:00:29,750 --> 01:00:26,190
know worthy of attention even though it

1228
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:29,760
might be difficult to explain you know

1229
01:00:36,860 --> 01:00:34,410
you know Bruce and I met under somewhat

1230
01:00:38,900 --> 01:00:36,870
unusual circumstances I don't remember

1231
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:38,910
how many many years ago but he was

1232
01:00:44,420 --> 01:00:41,970
working in a travel agency and I had

1233
01:00:47,150 --> 01:00:44,430
order I had ordered a ticket and somehow

1234
01:00:51,410 --> 01:00:47,160
the return flight got all screwed up

1235
01:00:54,620 --> 01:00:51,420
III come back later than I had I had to

1236
01:00:57,170 --> 01:00:54,630
get on another one anyway when when we

1237
01:00:58,460 --> 01:00:57,180
were when we were talking in his office

1238
01:01:01,430 --> 01:00:58,470
that I was trying to get a partial

1239
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:01,440
refund he asked me what I did and I said

1240
01:01:04,820 --> 01:01:03,090
oh I published you know books and things

1241
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:04,830
on UFOs and bla bla bla and he kind of

1242
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:07,530
looked at me askance and and then the

1243
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:10,290
next thing I know he's he's hanging with

1244
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:12,210
the market Brinkerhoff I don't know

1245
01:01:18,530 --> 01:01:14,250
there's how that had happened exactly

1246
01:01:22,430 --> 01:01:18,540
but we've been one big happy family ever

1247
01:01:23,660 --> 01:01:22,440
since now mark you were here and where's

1248
01:01:28,460 --> 01:01:23,670
the last time you actually talked to

1249
01:01:35,210 --> 01:01:28,470
Bruce um actually probably ruse about

1250
01:01:38,140 --> 01:01:35,220
three weeks ago right yeah yeah okay

1251
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:38,150
now it's a little bit a little bit about

1252
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:40,410
like holidays and the way people

1253
01:01:45,260 --> 01:01:43,530
celebrate things where his friends are

1254
01:01:48,770 --> 01:01:45,270
from which is a little bit further away

1255
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:48,780
than then China but mark I understand

1256
01:01:52,130 --> 01:01:50,250
you've been having a series of sightings

1257
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:52,140
and stuff - enough in the New York area

1258
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:54,450
where you live there you always seem to

1259
01:01:58,340 --> 01:01:56,130
be in the middle of the hubbub of all

1260
01:02:01,370 --> 01:01:58,350
this activity yeah

1261
01:02:06,050 --> 01:02:01,380
Bruce and I met through Brice bond yes

1262
01:02:09,980 --> 01:02:06,060
well who well yes all right so yeah yeah

1263
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:09,990
yeah yeah well I had a actual physical

1264
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:13,890
encounter with an ET on August 10th in

1265
01:02:17,810 --> 01:02:16,650
the Central Park and being came and

1266
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:17,820
talked to me he's about almost seven

1267
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:20,850
feet tall then he does nobody else note

1268
01:02:25,310 --> 01:02:23,010
nobody else noticed them that's the

1269
01:02:27,140 --> 01:02:25,320
thing I can't tell I saw people in the

1270
01:02:29,030 --> 01:02:27,150
distance watching but it didn't look

1271
01:02:29,870 --> 01:02:29,040
like anybody responded when he walked by

1272
01:02:33,739 --> 01:02:29,880
them in a very

1273
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:33,749
odd walk behavior it was like he was

1274
01:02:40,819 --> 01:02:37,650
like Klaatu from the ancient movie 1951

1275
01:02:42,289 --> 01:02:40,829
he was wearing a silvery business suit

1276
01:02:45,319 --> 01:02:42,299
but it was not a business suit of Earth

1277
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:45,329
it didn't have lapels the way we do here

1278
01:02:52,249 --> 01:02:47,130
it was very strange and very strange

1279
01:02:54,469 --> 01:02:52,259
fabric and clean skin pure skin not a

1280
01:02:56,749 --> 01:02:54,479
poor not a mark on his face not a

1281
01:02:59,779 --> 01:02:56,759
wrinkle large eyes and they were

1282
01:03:02,269 --> 01:02:59,789
beautiful blue color and golden brown

1283
01:03:05,449 --> 01:03:02,279
hair and he talked with me and he

1284
01:03:06,739 --> 01:03:05,459
laughed and I wrote up what he said was

1285
01:03:08,900 --> 01:03:06,749
very strange stuff that he was saying

1286
01:03:10,759 --> 01:03:08,910
cause he was asking to interview me but

1287
01:03:13,039 --> 01:03:10,769
he held on a device that didn't look

1288
01:03:15,049 --> 01:03:13,049
like a microphone and I watched it and

1289
01:03:17,150 --> 01:03:15,059
he he put it around me instead of

1290
01:03:19,609 --> 01:03:17,160
putting it towards my face to interview

1291
01:03:22,999 --> 01:03:19,619
me he just moved it around my body in my

1292
01:03:25,519 --> 01:03:23,009
head and tummy you know like that and it

1293
01:03:28,009 --> 01:03:25,529
was odd but I saw it was a silver

1294
01:03:29,870 --> 01:03:28,019
cylinder about not even three inches

1295
01:03:34,039 --> 01:03:29,880
about three inches long and maybe in

1296
01:03:35,870 --> 01:03:34,049
half inch wide but uh this is somebody

1297
01:03:38,539 --> 01:03:35,880
you had this was somebody you had not

1298
01:03:40,599 --> 01:03:38,549
met before no no no one's ever walked up

1299
01:03:43,130 --> 01:03:40,609
to me in the park this being just

1300
01:03:46,579 --> 01:03:43,140
appeared from nowhere and walked up to

1301
01:03:50,180 --> 01:03:46,589
me and just sat down right next to me on

1302
01:03:51,890 --> 01:03:50,190
the bench like the bag I had next to me

1303
01:03:54,709 --> 01:03:51,900
had my binoculars in it and stuff and

1304
01:03:58,609 --> 01:03:54,719
just sat exactly next to the bag

1305
01:04:02,329 --> 01:03:58,619
touching the bag with his leg and did he

1306
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:02,339
tell you where he was from no no but he

1307
01:04:05,870 --> 01:04:04,170
kept looking to the sky with his eyes

1308
01:04:08,630 --> 01:04:05,880
and smiling like he was trying to tell

1309
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:08,640
me to look up there in his eyes and so

1310
01:04:12,529 --> 01:04:10,650
when I looked up there I said to myself

1311
01:04:13,910 --> 01:04:12,539
well it's not a spaceship up in the sky

1312
01:04:18,979 --> 01:04:13,920
right now but it doesn't mean it's not

1313
01:04:21,739 --> 01:04:18,989
there invisibly and in it just goes on

1314
01:04:23,989 --> 01:04:21,749
but it's he he kind of interviews me but

1315
01:04:26,449 --> 01:04:23,999
he says to me at one point that's what I

1316
01:04:27,859 --> 01:04:26,459
get for trying to be in a journalist and

1317
01:04:29,599 --> 01:04:27,869
I saw I thought you did pretty well

1318
01:04:31,519 --> 01:04:29,609
being a journalist just now and he says

1319
01:04:34,729 --> 01:04:31,529
well I have a totally different other

1320
01:04:36,469 --> 01:04:34,739
job and you just submit Smurfs with me

1321
01:04:38,390 --> 01:04:36,479
so he's trying to tell me he's not from

1322
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:38,400
Earth but then I watched him walk away

1323
01:04:43,490 --> 01:04:41,130
and as he went away from me the energy

1324
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:43,500
was changed I could see the energy

1325
01:04:47,030 --> 01:04:45,450
and I stood straight up and tried to

1326
01:04:49,670 --> 01:04:47,040
follow him in the distance but he walked

1327
01:04:51,110 --> 01:04:49,680
so odd and slow like he was having

1328
01:04:53,420 --> 01:04:51,120
difficulty walking through our dimension

1329
01:04:54,890 --> 01:04:53,430
walks around a curve towards 85th Street

1330
01:04:57,410 --> 01:04:54,900
in the West Side and just Dean

1331
01:04:59,960 --> 01:04:57,420
materialized and that's when I went

1332
01:05:01,610 --> 01:04:59,970
within 15 minutes later to my spot where

1333
01:05:05,180 --> 01:05:01,620
I asked I watch because I was near it

1334
01:05:06,410 --> 01:05:05,190
now and a spaceship appeared it was cold

1335
01:05:08,900 --> 01:05:06,420
to look up and it came out of a cloud

1336
01:05:11,030 --> 01:05:08,910
hovered I looked at with binoculars

1337
01:05:12,950 --> 01:05:11,040
first I took a shot with the camera then

1338
01:05:15,860 --> 01:05:12,960
I looked in with binoculars and then I

1339
01:05:17,750 --> 01:05:15,870
felt something odd silence surrounded me

1340
01:05:20,150 --> 01:05:17,760
and then that's when they teleported me

1341
01:05:23,030 --> 01:05:20,160
on the ship and was 24 minutes of

1342
01:05:24,650 --> 01:05:23,040
missing time on the camera because the

1343
01:05:30,140 --> 01:05:24,660
next picture I took of the UFO was still

1344
01:05:33,010 --> 01:05:30,150
with a cloud you always have such

1345
01:05:39,410 --> 01:05:33,020
fascinating stuff happening to you yeah

1346
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:39,420
yeah I wish I knew what I wish I could

1347
01:05:45,500 --> 01:05:43,050
be in your shoes for one day but oh yeah

1348
01:05:47,060 --> 01:05:45,510
anybody anybody who wants to read more

1349
01:05:49,700 --> 01:05:47,070
about mark of course he has a website

1350
01:05:51,110 --> 01:05:49,710
but he's also we did a whole chapter on

1351
01:05:54,050 --> 01:05:51,120
him with a lot of the photographs that

1352
01:06:01,930 --> 01:05:54,060
he's taken in our UFO repeaters book the

1353
01:06:09,230 --> 01:06:04,580
those that when you revise the book we

1354
01:06:11,330 --> 01:06:09,240
got more for you oh my it's hundred

1355
01:06:13,610 --> 01:06:11,340
pages you know most of the books that

1356
01:06:16,100 --> 01:06:13,620
Tim and I are the tips towards that I do

1357
01:06:18,650 --> 01:06:16,110
and Sean gets deal a works on they're so

1358
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:18,660
big we have this spooky treasure trove

1359
01:06:24,470 --> 01:06:22,890
it's over 400 pages you know well yeah

1360
01:06:26,570 --> 01:06:24,480
what we know we give them we give them a

1361
01:06:30,620 --> 01:06:26,580
bang for the dollar man I miss Ryan you

1362
01:06:33,580 --> 01:06:30,630
know yeah yeah you know we we go it's

1363
01:06:36,970 --> 01:06:33,590
just something wrong with me you know

1364
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:36,980
geez we didn't include that story from

1365
01:06:42,710 --> 01:06:40,170
1958 we gotta include that you know and

1366
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:42,720
then I go back and just did you continue

1367
01:06:48,410 --> 01:06:45,930
on you know with this but it sounds like

1368
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:48,420
you've had an exciting December

1369
01:06:56,300 --> 01:06:53,010
it's a December to remember and we look

1370
01:06:57,300 --> 01:06:56,310
forward to having you on in a maybe a

1371
01:06:59,280 --> 01:06:57,310
month and a half

1372
01:07:01,170 --> 01:06:59,290
so to talk about all your recent

1373
01:07:04,730 --> 01:07:01,180
activities because you haven't been on

1374
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:04,740
actually k cor which is the best

1375
01:07:11,940 --> 01:07:08,650
paranormal radio music station in the

1376
01:07:12,660 --> 01:07:11,950
world broadcasting out of your checks in

1377
01:07:15,900 --> 01:07:12,670
the mail

1378
01:07:18,180 --> 01:07:15,910
yeah it's a it's about it's about time

1379
01:07:19,770 --> 01:07:18,190
believe in the starship crews here your

1380
01:07:20,940 --> 01:07:19,780
show don't worry about it yeah that's

1381
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:20,950
what we got to do you know everybody

1382
01:07:25,110 --> 01:07:23,290
puts together like boat cruises yeah you

1383
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:25,120
know cruises on yachts we got to do like

1384
01:07:29,700 --> 01:07:28,090
a mother ship throws that wouldn't that

1385
01:07:31,290 --> 01:07:29,710
would how much could we charge and then

1386
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:31,300
leave town real quick I don't know

1387
01:07:35,490 --> 01:07:33,250
actually actually you know somebody

1388
01:07:38,340 --> 01:07:35,500
somebody tried that years ago there was

1389
01:07:41,490 --> 01:07:38,350
a guy by the name of Mark Cobb who lived

1390
01:07:43,170 --> 01:07:41,500
in in in st. Louis he was working with a

1391
01:07:45,410 --> 01:07:43,180
fella by the name of George Marlow I

1392
01:07:47,730 --> 01:07:45,420
think it was and they went around

1393
01:07:50,550 --> 01:07:47,740
inviting these celebrities like Jackie

1394
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:50,560
Gleason and Jack Paar to come with them

1395
01:07:54,390 --> 01:07:51,970
and they were going to take off you know

1396
01:07:56,070 --> 01:07:54,400
to go to the moon or or somewhere but I

1397
01:07:58,770 --> 01:07:56,080
guess Jackie Gleason had already been to

1398
01:08:01,080 --> 01:07:58,780
the moon and seen aliens anyway so that

1399
01:08:03,690 --> 01:08:01,090
of course the trip the trip never took

1400
01:08:07,590 --> 01:08:03,700
place so what are you gonna what he

1401
01:08:11,100 --> 01:08:07,600
gonna say and that's that's what it is

1402
01:08:14,610 --> 01:08:11,110
and we we were going to have Christmas

1403
01:08:17,370 --> 01:08:14,620
carols but we had one so far and we're

1404
01:08:18,809 --> 01:08:17,380
going to have a break coming up and then

1405
01:08:20,730 --> 01:08:18,819
we'll go here then I hear the music

1406
01:08:23,670 --> 01:08:20,740
already Tim we're going to come back

1407
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:23,680
with Allen Greenfield Adam go rightly

1408
01:08:29,190 --> 01:08:26,770
and that should be a talk fest to

1409
01:08:32,099 --> 01:08:29,200
remember again I want to thank you Mark

1410
01:08:33,900 --> 01:08:32,109
and Bruce you you know you both you to

1411
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:33,910
both be well and thank you for coming on

1412
01:08:38,940 --> 01:08:36,850
and you're sharing a little eggnog with

1413
01:08:43,670 --> 01:08:38,950
the boys over here and later

1414
01:08:53,250 --> 01:08:43,680
excellent excellent okay Thank You Jamie

1415
01:08:59,980 --> 01:08:57,400
now back to exploring the bazaars with

1416
01:09:03,280 --> 01:08:59,990
two of the most electrifying researchers

1417
01:09:14,850 --> 01:09:03,290
in the Paranoid your hosts Timothy Becca

1418
01:09:20,440 --> 01:09:14,860
Lee and Kings hello this is richard byrd

1419
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:20,450
approaching can you hear me say the

1420
01:09:25,690 --> 01:09:23,330
North Pole I can see it I can see the

1421
01:09:29,350 --> 01:09:25,700
North Pole there's that Russian flag at

1422
01:09:32,620 --> 01:09:29,360
the bottom okay and I'm five by five at

1423
01:09:37,180 --> 01:09:32,630
the North Pole still flying north I'm

1424
01:09:39,010 --> 01:09:37,190
still flying North America then there is

1425
01:09:41,590 --> 01:09:39,020
a wall beyond the poles

1426
01:09:47,380 --> 01:09:41,600
I tell you beyond the poles and I'm

1427
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:47,390
noticing well Admiral Byrd you've

1428
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:49,010
actually traveled through time because

1429
01:09:53,950 --> 01:09:50,690
you know you made that journey back in

1430
01:10:02,590 --> 01:09:53,960
1947 I don't know what you're talking

1431
01:10:12,490 --> 01:10:02,600
about Jim this is now in Greenfield you

1432
01:10:14,260 --> 01:10:12,500
know this is actually because Trump tore

1433
01:10:16,660 --> 01:10:14,270
it down but that's not a political

1434
01:10:25,230 --> 01:10:16,670
statement that affects well we've got

1435
01:10:31,900 --> 01:10:28,740
Greenfield and from sunny California

1436
01:10:35,550 --> 01:10:31,910
near the integrant Ron we've got we've

1437
01:10:38,050 --> 01:10:35,560
got Adam go rightly one of our buddies

1438
01:10:44,140 --> 01:10:38,060
whatever-whatever one of our friends and

1439
01:10:47,230 --> 01:10:44,150
we love Adam I you month I I thought we

1440
01:10:49,480 --> 01:10:47,240
would just complete this Christmas chaos

1441
01:10:53,500 --> 01:10:49,490
with the two of the most chaotic people

1442
01:10:55,900 --> 01:10:53,510
that I know in all of the paranormal and

1443
01:11:02,640 --> 01:10:55,910
human oddities or something like that I

1444
01:11:05,910 --> 01:11:02,650
don't know what I'm saying words I mean

1445
01:11:09,450 --> 01:11:05,920
Beckley I have this fantastic doctor

1446
01:11:16,410 --> 01:11:09,460
memory card where were you on this day

1447
01:11:21,060 --> 01:11:16,420
this very day in 1968 December 24th

1448
01:11:24,990 --> 01:11:21,070
Christmas Eve at midnight where were you

1449
01:11:29,370 --> 01:11:25,000
well we were in some little a cabin or

1450
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:29,380
trailer near but it was a Holiday Inn

1451
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:30,850
okay all right but I remember also

1452
01:11:38,010 --> 01:11:33,370
staying maybe before Brown Mountain

1453
01:11:40,380 --> 01:11:38,020
North Carolina that's the bottom line we

1454
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:40,390
were out looking for the Brown Mountain

1455
01:11:47,850 --> 01:11:45,010
lights and and when we got back to the

1456
01:11:50,970 --> 01:11:47,860
hotel to your room your mother's already

1457
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:50,980
where explained it was yes this I you

1458
01:11:54,180 --> 01:11:52,330
said to her I don't know what she said

1459
01:11:55,950 --> 01:11:54,190
she said but it's the Walker states you

1460
01:12:00,750 --> 01:11:55,960
were explaining how we slid down the

1461
01:12:03,209 --> 01:12:00,760
mountains oh no but it's the cold month

1462
01:12:06,780 --> 01:12:03,219
remember exactly what you saw you know I

1463
01:12:12,590 --> 01:12:06,790
turned on the TV and I thought God the

1464
01:12:16,950 --> 01:12:15,030
because they were reading the Bible but

1465
01:12:20,340 --> 01:12:16,960
it turned out it was you know like

1466
01:12:23,939 --> 01:12:20,350
reading the Bible from the moon which is

1467
01:12:26,870 --> 01:12:23,949
well nots did that I do remember I do

1468
01:12:29,790 --> 01:12:26,880
remember the the roads being very very

1469
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:29,800
slippery I I don't I don't know how it's

1470
01:12:35,430 --> 01:12:31,810
down there tonight but of course we've

1471
01:12:38,550 --> 01:12:35,440
got we've got balmy short-sleeve weather

1472
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:38,560
here and I'm pouring sweat it's in the

1473
01:12:44,220 --> 01:12:41,650
70s it's been in the 70s all funny but

1474
01:12:46,260 --> 01:12:44,230
don't remember folks remember Adam bear

1475
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:46,270
me out on this there is you know global

1476
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:48,610
warming we have that from the seven

1477
01:12:54,899 --> 01:12:51,850
scientists the seven scientists who work

1478
01:12:56,939 --> 01:12:54,909
for the oil companies well I'm looking

1479
01:13:05,459 --> 01:12:56,949
out my window and guess what I'm staring

1480
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:05,469
at the kids not snow snow I'm in central

1481
01:13:12,149 --> 01:13:07,210
California you know

1482
01:13:14,669 --> 01:13:12,159
elevation wise 3,000 3,500 feet near

1483
01:13:15,990 --> 01:13:14,679
Yosemite National Park and we got about

1484
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:16,000
three inches of snow too

1485
01:13:21,660 --> 01:13:18,250
so they're you girls I think the weather

1486
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:21,670
outside is frightening but pride how is

1487
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:25,930
it oh it's fine yeah it's delight we got

1488
01:13:32,540 --> 01:13:28,810
a fire going in the wood stove so it's

1489
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:32,550
all good so much for global warming hey

1490
01:13:37,620 --> 01:13:35,410
Adam what was the most exciting

1491
01:13:42,900 --> 01:13:37,630
Christmas Eve or Christmas Day you ever

1492
01:13:45,510 --> 01:13:42,910
spent can you remember no okay well we

1493
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:45,520
we were going to ask you what would

1494
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:47,770
Robert Anton Wilson how would he have

1495
01:13:53,910 --> 01:13:50,650
spent Christmas probably typically a

1496
01:13:58,740 --> 01:13:53,920
pretty normal Christmas I had imagined

1497
01:14:03,900 --> 01:13:58,750
he wasn't too oh you know dedicated to

1498
01:14:06,300 --> 01:14:03,910
any particular religious view but and

1499
01:14:09,060 --> 01:14:06,310
you know it got me thinking today coming

1500
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:09,070
on here what exactly to talk about and

1501
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:11,650
that yeah just I got thinking about the

1502
01:14:16,710 --> 01:14:14,770
I'm I need a muscaria mushroom I'm sure

1503
01:14:20,010 --> 01:14:16,720
you're familiar with its how it's

1504
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:20,020
related to the roots of shamanism in

1505
01:14:24,930 --> 01:14:21,850
Europe and Christmas you've probably

1506
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:24,940
heard those stories haven't you no no go

1507
01:14:29,220 --> 01:14:27,130
ahead and tell us a quick mushroom in

1508
01:14:32,670 --> 01:14:29,230
the cross huh well yeah that's that's

1509
01:14:36,030 --> 01:14:32,680
quite possibly the book that who wrote

1510
01:14:38,010 --> 01:14:36,040
that dr. John Allegro he was talking

1511
01:14:41,970 --> 01:14:38,020
about the yes yes he got drummed out of

1512
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:41,980
the Dead Sea Scrolls committee for

1513
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:44,410
having the temerity to say it was a

1514
01:14:49,260 --> 01:14:47,170
visionary experience which to me makes

1515
01:14:52,470 --> 01:14:49,270
more sense a lot more sense than

1516
01:14:54,300 --> 01:14:52,480
anything more literal but don't quote me

1517
01:14:57,390 --> 01:14:54,310
on that because somebody might ear it

1518
01:14:59,760 --> 01:14:57,400
now it was it actually Amanita muscaria

1519
01:15:02,270 --> 01:14:59,770
or psilocybin we don't know for sure but

1520
01:15:04,980 --> 01:15:02,280
so I was thinking about this today and

1521
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:04,990
Adam Parfrey at Farrell House published

1522
01:15:11,490 --> 01:15:07,930
a little piece on the roots of all of

1523
01:15:15,090 --> 01:15:11,500
this and so the tradition of it the

1524
01:15:17,670 --> 01:15:15,100
shamans in Europe way back in the day a

1525
01:15:20,490 --> 01:15:17,680
lot of people have pointed that Amanita

1526
01:15:22,950 --> 01:15:20,500
muscaria s-- was really part of what

1527
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:22,960
started the tradition with in winter

1528
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:25,810
solstice and with Christmas and the

1529
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:27,850
shamans back then pulling out a couple

1530
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:30,370
things for this this article

1531
01:15:35,430 --> 01:15:32,650
the northern shamans dressed in white

1532
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:35,440
hooded robes to picking the color of the

1533
01:15:39,660 --> 01:15:37,690
sacred mushroom if you ever seen one of

1534
01:15:43,950 --> 01:15:39,670
the aging pulled up on the web it has a

1535
01:15:48,930 --> 01:15:43,960
very bright red cat with its speckled

1536
01:15:50,910 --> 01:15:48,940
with white dots and so during the winter

1537
01:15:54,930 --> 01:15:50,920
solstice the shamans would give out

1538
01:15:57,300 --> 01:15:54,940
these mushrooms as gifts and so you know

1539
01:15:59,850 --> 01:15:57,310
through the culture that you know the

1540
01:16:04,170 --> 01:15:59,860
conception of Santa Claus now really

1541
01:16:05,730 --> 01:16:04,180
came from a coca-cola campaign the fat

1542
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:05,740
Rolly Joey

1543
01:16:10,890 --> 01:16:08,530
roly-poly guy but before that you know a

1544
01:16:14,480 --> 01:16:10,900
lot of these the depictions of Santa

1545
01:16:17,070 --> 01:16:14,490
we're kind of strange-looking creatures

1546
01:16:19,740 --> 01:16:17,080
you guys still with me they're elves

1547
01:16:24,210 --> 01:16:19,750
elves we're being silent because of your

1548
01:16:28,260 --> 01:16:24,220
wisdom and so pick it a few things out

1549
01:16:31,170 --> 01:16:28,270
of this zone and these are passages from

1550
01:16:33,390 --> 01:16:31,180
a book called mushrooms and humanity

1551
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:33,400
written by a guy named James Arthur who

1552
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:36,370
I actually knew he lived not far from me

1553
01:16:40,500 --> 01:16:38,650
and anyway I kind of had a trechie

1554
01:16:42,780 --> 01:16:40,510
yeah we won't get into that but quoting

1555
01:16:44,970 --> 01:16:42,790
from him and I believe it was from

1556
01:16:47,490 --> 01:16:44,980
mushrooms in humanity he said people

1557
01:16:50,010 --> 01:16:47,500
bring pine trees into their houses this

1558
01:16:52,500 --> 01:16:50,020
is back in the day at the winter

1559
01:16:54,330 --> 01:16:52,510
solstice placing brightly colored red

1560
01:16:55,890 --> 01:16:54,340
and white packages under their boughs as

1561
01:16:59,490 --> 01:16:55,900
gifts to show their love for each other

1562
01:17:01,440 --> 01:16:59,500
because underneath the pine boo bow is

1563
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:01,450
the exact location where one would find

1564
01:17:09,090 --> 01:17:04,050
the most sacred substance the Amanita

1565
01:17:12,390 --> 01:17:09,100
muscaria in the wild and and also talks

1566
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:12,400
about here the reindeer native dark tick

1567
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:14,770
and subarctic regions of northern Europe

1568
01:17:18,510 --> 01:17:16,330
and Siberia are connected to the

1569
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:18,520
shamanic tradition in that reindeer are

1570
01:17:23,190 --> 01:17:20,530
particularly fond of eating Amanita

1571
01:17:25,290 --> 01:17:23,200
muscaria after ingesting the fungi they

1572
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:25,300
prance about whilst under the influence

1573
01:17:30,270 --> 01:17:27,610
of the psychedelic this can symbolize

1574
01:17:32,940 --> 01:17:30,280
reindeer flying as they accompany the

1575
01:17:35,250 --> 01:17:32,950
shaman on their mystical trance flight

1576
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:35,260
so a lot of people have pointed to this

1577
01:17:42,510 --> 01:17:38,890
as really the roots of Christmas came

1578
01:17:43,830 --> 01:17:42,520
out of this shamanic tradition way back

1579
01:17:45,810 --> 01:17:43,840
when pretty

1580
01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:45,820
he's one I always wondered why Rudolph

1581
01:17:53,730 --> 01:17:49,450
was a little his eyes were dilated only

1582
01:17:58,350 --> 01:17:53,740
goes back to gene autry I think but but

1583
01:18:01,110 --> 01:17:58,360
the the the notion of well there's st.

1584
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:01,120
Nicholas who it's nominally based on and

1585
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:04,090
then there is this fierce elf who would

1586
01:18:11,550 --> 01:18:08,890
fly in but America has a way of gentling

1587
01:18:13,650 --> 01:18:11,560
down for public consumption anything

1588
01:18:15,480 --> 01:18:13,660
that's really scary you know they have

1589
01:18:18,570 --> 01:18:15,490
they have the Day of the Dead in Mexico

1590
01:18:21,930 --> 01:18:18,580
but here it's Halloween let's put on a

1591
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:21,940
bunny mask and then get some candy from

1592
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:23,410
the neighbors hope there's no razor

1593
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:26,890
blades and then many ideas people I

1594
01:18:32,700 --> 01:18:28,930
don't need the Karma I've got enough

1595
01:18:35,220 --> 01:18:32,710
already okay but nevertheless yeah it

1596
01:18:37,650 --> 01:18:35,230
looks like that I wish you folks could

1597
01:18:41,220 --> 01:18:37,660
see the picture their living picture of

1598
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:41,230
Tim Schwartz right now looking like a

1599
01:18:47,370 --> 01:18:44,290
dead Santa Claus who's been mummified by

1600
01:18:49,380 --> 01:18:47,380
the ancient Egyptians it is truly truly

1601
01:18:52,530 --> 01:18:49,390
the most frightening thing I've seen

1602
01:18:55,190 --> 01:18:52,540
tonight are you looking at Tim passed

1603
01:19:00,660 --> 01:18:55,200
out through your skype or something

1604
01:19:03,870 --> 01:19:00,670
you're just my skype picture yes I'm

1605
01:19:06,420 --> 01:19:03,880
looking at the sky god I haven't turned

1606
01:19:11,100 --> 01:19:06,430
on my camera if you want I can reveal

1607
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:11,110
myself now there's a also way well

1608
01:19:16,830 --> 01:19:12,970
there's kind of all kinds of UFO

1609
01:19:18,180 --> 01:19:16,840
connections with drugs but one that came

1610
01:19:20,100 --> 01:19:18,190
in mind with that am I need him he's

1611
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:20,110
scaring it might have been this might

1612
01:19:25,530 --> 01:19:22,210
have been made up and howland probably

1613
01:19:29,460 --> 01:19:25,540
knows quite a bit about the book by

1614
01:19:33,690 --> 01:19:29,470
andrea pew Horwich the sacred where my

1615
01:19:36,300 --> 01:19:33,700
goodness yes yeah and he talked in that

1616
01:19:38,580 --> 01:19:36,310
well that that that book about how he

1617
01:19:42,540 --> 01:19:38,590
got those groups of psychics around them

1618
01:19:45,510 --> 01:19:42,550
and by using the sacred mushroom they

1619
01:19:48,900 --> 01:19:45,520
channeled their previous lives in

1620
01:19:51,060 --> 01:19:48,910
whatever ancient egypt and all this and

1621
01:19:53,430 --> 01:19:51,070
a lot of that group i guess kind of

1622
01:19:57,270 --> 01:19:53,440
evolved into what became known as the

1623
01:20:00,420 --> 01:19:57,280
nine or the the psychic nine

1624
01:20:03,690 --> 01:20:00,430
yeah the psychics who can't do contacted

1625
01:20:05,310 --> 01:20:03,700
the Council of nine and one but if

1626
01:20:18,300 --> 01:20:05,320
that's the voice of tightness that

1627
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:18,310
you're just there thank you what else oh

1628
01:20:22,530 --> 01:20:20,530
and this guy who wrote about a lot of

1629
01:20:26,310 --> 01:20:22,540
this stuff James Arthur I quoted him

1630
01:20:28,820 --> 01:20:26,320
from mushrooms and humanity knew him

1631
01:20:33,480 --> 01:20:28,830
briefly several years back he knew

1632
01:20:37,350 --> 01:20:33,490
Gabriel green God and Green should be

1633
01:20:43,230 --> 01:20:37,360
running for president now it wouldn't

1634
01:20:47,550 --> 01:20:43,240
dilute the field that's for sure yet he

1635
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:47,560
was a bunny way ahead yeah a way ahead

1636
01:20:52,290 --> 01:20:50,050
of himself in the thinking I mean he was

1637
01:20:54,030 --> 01:20:52,300
just stuff and of course he was he he

1638
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:54,040
was the one he was the one to they

1639
01:20:59,640 --> 01:20:56,890
wanted to have relations with China in a

1640
01:21:02,820 --> 01:20:59,650
time when you know the the China was on

1641
01:21:04,590 --> 01:21:02,830
our you know banned from American list

1642
01:21:10,170 --> 01:21:04,600
and of course now we just had Bruce on

1643
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:10,180
from mainland China yeah here I have a

1644
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:13,570
button are you doing but it says

1645
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:17,050
something like Abe in 1860 Gabe in 1960

1646
01:21:23,910 --> 01:21:19,570
but I was gonna mention James Arthur

1647
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:23,920
told me that he did psychedelics on a

1648
01:21:29,580 --> 01:21:26,850
number of occasions with a Gabe green

1649
01:21:32,790 --> 01:21:29,590
that would explain a great deal about

1650
01:21:35,910 --> 01:21:32,800
his spiritual enlightenment and his

1651
01:21:41,930 --> 01:21:35,920
voyage to the moon Mars Venus and other

1652
01:21:48,060 --> 01:21:45,150
problem but that's okay because Gabe

1653
01:21:50,390 --> 01:21:48,070
isn't with us anymore and American law

1654
01:22:04,200 --> 01:21:50,400
allows me to say that's pretty weird

1655
01:22:09,660 --> 01:22:04,210
even five by my standards did we lose

1656
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:09,670
out somebody keeps coming in I keep

1657
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:11,130
channeling somebody

1658
01:22:16,490 --> 01:22:14,130
Oh Chanel no no no that's on screen

1659
01:22:19,490 --> 01:22:16,500
Queens but that's not important Tim over

1660
01:22:20,899 --> 01:22:19,500
to you yes yes yes come in come in North

1661
01:22:23,060 --> 01:22:20,909
Pole come in North Pole

1662
01:22:39,290 --> 01:22:23,070
we'll be on North although it's still

1663
01:22:48,020 --> 01:22:39,300
pointing north I don't understand we

1664
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:48,030
carry a little passion and energy do the

1665
01:22:53,500 --> 01:22:50,489
show that's for sure yes let us know

1666
01:22:58,729 --> 01:22:53,510
when you run into the the giant

1667
01:23:00,560 --> 01:22:58,739
mastodons and the Nazis and whoever else

1668
01:23:03,919 --> 01:23:00,570
might be in happening that the Paradise

1669
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:03,929
inside the earth there they are

1670
01:23:19,610 --> 01:23:14,610
Nazis on mastodons woolly mammoths but

1671
01:23:24,379 --> 01:23:19,620
not on mastodons this is the night for

1672
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:24,389
the revelation of what goes on according

1673
01:23:31,100 --> 01:23:27,449
to F amundo giannotti may he rest in

1674
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:31,110
peace and according to Ray Palmer who

1675
01:23:38,450 --> 01:23:34,770
said are you kidding this is Ray Palmer

1676
01:23:40,370 --> 01:23:38,460
who listened to shape so take it for

1677
01:23:42,530 --> 01:23:40,380
what it's worth my friend I'm looking at

1678
01:23:49,070 --> 01:23:42,540
the camera that's insane that shows what

1679
01:23:51,470 --> 01:23:49,080
a media [\h__\h] I am I know yeah yeah

1680
01:23:53,899 --> 01:23:51,480
especially this is Las Vegas

1681
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:53,909
remember we're broke yeah that's that's

1682
01:23:59,540 --> 01:23:56,489
illegal that's a legal word I don't know

1683
01:24:02,390 --> 01:23:59,550
how to tell you this but you actually

1684
01:24:05,090 --> 01:24:02,400
get out to the whole world except China

1685
01:24:07,100 --> 01:24:05,100
you can broadcast from China but you

1686
01:24:12,310 --> 01:24:07,110
can't broadcast into China because they

1687
01:24:18,740 --> 01:24:16,430
beyond 4th fall there is freedom believe

1688
01:24:23,950 --> 01:24:18,750
it or not we drunk we do have people

1689
01:24:27,670 --> 01:24:24,240
[Music]

1690
01:24:30,350 --> 01:24:27,680
[Laughter]

1691
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:30,360
freedom Bruce Lee Bruce Lee Bruce

1692
01:24:35,540 --> 01:24:32,130
listens to the show every week he told

1693
01:24:39,110 --> 01:24:35,550
me in there from China and yeah yeah

1694
01:24:42,500 --> 01:24:39,120
it's not you are fine and Connells

1695
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:42,510
that's freedom Americans now yeah there

1696
01:24:44,930 --> 01:24:42,810
you go

1697
01:24:46,729 --> 01:24:44,940
yeah UFOs are not you know the one thing

1698
01:24:49,190 --> 01:24:46,739
that you can't talk about in China you

1699
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:49,200
can talk about UFOs freely but not time

1700
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:50,010
travel

1701
01:24:57,140 --> 01:24:53,250
now isn't that very weird keeping the

1702
01:24:59,660 --> 01:24:57,150
wraps on it yes because they don't want

1703
01:25:01,340 --> 01:24:59,670
anybody to know that in in in you know a

1704
01:25:03,290 --> 01:25:01,350
hundred years they won't be a world I

1705
01:25:05,030 --> 01:25:03,300
didn't say that tower again or something

1706
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:05,040
like that who knows I don't know ah

1707
01:25:09,140 --> 01:25:06,690
there'll be a world in a hundred years

1708
01:25:15,670 --> 01:25:09,150
but maybe not on this plant not

1709
01:25:21,470 --> 01:25:19,160
well all powers all powers come and go I

1710
01:25:23,420 --> 01:25:21,480
mean nothing look at you know the year

1711
01:25:26,570 --> 01:25:23,430
the past history of the of the planet

1712
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:26,580
all cultures come and go and we think

1713
01:25:32,990 --> 01:25:27,810
that to where the might you know the

1714
01:25:37,910 --> 01:25:33,000
mighty you know they started to have

1715
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:37,920
clowns running for Emperor and people

1716
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:52,290
took the Trump triumphant Empire the

1717
01:26:00,110 --> 01:25:54,930
flame Christianity Sun blade the actor

1718
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:00,120
who ran for Emperor and was Emperor for

1719
01:26:05,750 --> 01:26:03,570
42 days long enough for a legion to put

1720
01:26:09,229 --> 01:26:05,760
together enough swords to depose him and

1721
01:26:11,030 --> 01:26:09,239
cut off his head that was that that's

1722
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:11,040
the true story of the decline and fall

1723
01:26:18,580 --> 01:26:14,730
of the Roman Empire not not relating it

1724
01:26:22,700 --> 01:26:18,590
in any way to America the exceptional

1725
01:26:24,299 --> 01:26:22,710
country of the 21st and any other

1726
01:26:32,350 --> 01:26:24,309
century

1727
01:26:38,529 --> 01:26:36,040
I have I have some in the past Tim not

1728
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:38,539
recently have yes yeah why your why your

1729
01:26:48,609 --> 01:26:45,170
hi I knew would not never not never got

1730
01:26:50,649 --> 01:26:48,619
that confident that oh my goodness I

1731
01:26:54,580 --> 01:26:50,659
want to I want to see you come down the

1732
01:26:56,290 --> 01:26:54,590
slopes well I I do believe that some of

1733
01:26:59,890 --> 01:26:56,300
these the ski resorts are having a

1734
01:27:02,640 --> 01:26:59,900
terrible time this uh you know season so

1735
01:27:05,830 --> 01:27:02,650
far because they have they have no snow

1736
01:27:09,009 --> 01:27:05,840
and people are thinking about you know

1737
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:09,019
swimming pools and ice cream trucks and

1738
01:27:21,580 --> 01:27:18,640
even swimming pools have fallen out of

1739
01:27:25,089 --> 01:27:21,590
favor in California where you know water

1740
01:27:26,949 --> 01:27:25,099
conservation has uh yeah recently become

1741
01:27:29,020 --> 01:27:26,959
so critical I don't we got this storm

1742
01:27:31,500 --> 01:27:29,030
coming in now and supposedly this

1743
01:27:35,370 --> 01:27:31,510
pineapple Express so we'll see there's a

1744
01:27:39,009 --> 01:27:35,380
ski resort just I don't know our up

1745
01:27:41,350 --> 01:27:39,019
north of me so you know they see how

1746
01:27:42,969 --> 01:27:41,360
they go they they get a decent amount of

1747
01:27:45,759 --> 01:27:42,979
snow then they bring in their snow

1748
01:27:48,759 --> 01:27:45,769
making machines and make some more snow

1749
01:27:51,609 --> 01:27:48,769
to put on top of it do they snow

1750
01:28:01,509 --> 01:27:51,619
do they snow snow do they ski on Mount

1751
01:28:04,330 --> 01:28:01,519
Shasta no Ballard and the I am speaking

1752
01:28:06,339 --> 01:28:04,340
of Nazis on mastodons yeah yeah and so

1753
01:28:09,250 --> 01:28:06,349
you have to watch it on Mount Shasta

1754
01:28:11,129 --> 01:28:09,260
okay yeah they have all kinds of warning

1755
01:28:14,100 --> 01:28:11,139
signs that they you know there's a

1756
01:28:17,370 --> 01:28:14,110
vortex entrances here you know and

1757
01:28:19,270 --> 01:28:17,380
multi-dimensional things so you need to

1758
01:28:22,419 --> 01:28:19,280
whatever don't be eating

1759
01:28:24,910 --> 01:28:22,429
Amanita muscaria in the area well you

1760
01:28:27,910 --> 01:28:24,920
know you know my my friend who since

1761
01:28:31,779 --> 01:28:27,920
passed on blue ocean who of course was a

1762
01:28:35,709 --> 01:28:31,789
fairly famous musician he was born on

1763
01:28:37,540 --> 01:28:35,719
Mount Shasta and he yes yes believe it

1764
01:28:41,230 --> 01:28:37,550
or not he was born on my chest

1765
01:28:44,380 --> 01:28:41,240
he was a Native America when he called

1766
01:28:45,490 --> 01:28:44,390
the town of weed to try to get a burst

1767
01:28:49,210 --> 01:28:45,500
never had a birdie

1768
01:28:55,420 --> 01:28:49,220
he never you have the nearest town I

1769
01:28:57,850 --> 01:28:55,430
think this yeah yeah yeah and when he

1770
01:29:00,400 --> 01:28:57,860
called to try to get a birth certificate

1771
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:00,410
they thought he was making it up because

1772
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:02,930
they said there was no you know like

1773
01:29:08,170 --> 01:29:05,210
Indians living at Mount Shasta well

1774
01:29:11,110 --> 01:29:08,180
certainly he knew where he lived and you

1775
01:29:13,480 --> 01:29:11,120
know that was always a contention but he

1776
01:29:17,530 --> 01:29:13,490
managed to get his royalties from Don

1777
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:17,540
Kirshner and Pink Floyd and whoever else

1778
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:19,850
that he he drummed for but we certainly

1779
01:29:27,430 --> 01:29:24,530
miss a blue on Christmas Eve as we do

1780
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:27,440
all of our friends who it cannot be here

1781
01:29:33,070 --> 01:29:30,050
who have passed on like our friend Wally

1782
01:29:35,500 --> 01:29:33,080
for example I you know people that we've

1783
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:35,510
worked with over the years and enriched

1784
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:38,570
our life but we've had a great that

1785
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:40,730
we've actually had a great program this

1786
01:29:45,430 --> 01:29:44,090
evening Tina don't you agree yeah I was

1787
01:29:47,050 --> 01:29:45,440
I really interesting a lot of great

1788
01:29:49,030 --> 01:29:47,060
people calling in and a lot of great

1789
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:49,040
show you know we have to do we have to

1790
01:29:54,690 --> 01:29:51,050
do this more often

1791
01:30:04,960 --> 01:29:54,700
[Laughter]

1792
01:30:07,980 --> 01:30:04,970
Jim you're breaking up you have to hand

1793
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:07,990
it to Tina she does a remarkable job on

1794
01:30:14,950 --> 01:30:12,290
the KCR digital radio network I like to

1795
01:30:18,930 --> 01:30:14,960
say that it just kind of like flows off

1796
01:30:22,690 --> 01:30:18,940
of my you know off of my tongue and she

1797
01:30:28,970 --> 01:30:22,700
yeah she did a super job especially this

1798
01:30:40,550 --> 01:30:33,760
[Applause]

1799
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:40,560
okay and why did you say good night to

1800
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:43,050
our our fellow the people that have been

1801
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:45,330
with us this evening and maybe recap the

1802
01:31:02,630 --> 01:30:55,890
show Abed it's good more like a stream

1803
01:31:04,460 --> 01:31:02,640
of consciousness probably had too many

1804
01:31:07,070 --> 01:31:04,470
cups of eggnog right you don't want to

1805
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:07,080
do it with it oh my gosh well I mean you

1806
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:08,850
know considering all the fantastic

1807
01:31:16,010 --> 01:31:11,730
guests we've had tonight you know of

1808
01:31:19,670 --> 01:31:16,020
course Diane and Adam and especially

1809
01:31:20,540 --> 01:31:19,680
Admiral Robert Byrd you know yeah one

1810
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:20,550
hell of a guy

1811
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:24,210
that's right that's right I mean and I

1812
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:26,850
have to I have to president you know I

1813
01:31:33,380 --> 01:31:29,610
have to hand it to Tina to be able to

1814
01:31:35,510 --> 01:31:33,390
bring him in on on skype I mean it's I

1815
01:31:40,940 --> 01:31:35,520
don't think anybody else's man I'll say

1816
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:40,950
I would a bill for that one amazing it

1817
01:31:45,470 --> 01:31:42,690
cut me out but that was okay I could

1818
01:32:09,050 --> 01:31:45,480
hear him as if he were still among us

1819
01:32:11,390 --> 01:32:09,060
yeah CIA's not good at my door it's been

1820
01:32:13,100 --> 01:32:11,400
a fantastic show tonight guys or you

1821
01:32:16,130 --> 01:32:13,110
know we really appreciate you having us

1822
01:32:19,820 --> 01:32:16,140
on and and and you know what is coming

1823
01:32:21,590 --> 01:32:19,830
up next on the KCR kcomai coming up and

1824
01:32:23,450 --> 01:32:21,600
that's our non-stop Christmas special

1825
01:32:26,170 --> 01:32:23,460
with our 12 the night before Christmas

1826
01:32:37,730 --> 01:32:26,180
the Keith you are a paranormal twist way

1827
01:32:40,070 --> 01:32:37,740
right twisting time is here and and my

1828
01:32:43,459 --> 01:32:40,080
friend April has just showed up so see

1829
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:43,469
you all next week and happy holiday

1830
01:32:56,870 --> 01:32:53,010
buy my book you've been listening to

1831
01:33:00,620 --> 01:32:56,880
exploring the bazaar with hosts Timothy

1832
01:33:03,140 --> 01:33:00,630
Becky and to Swartz they're taking back

1833
01:33:05,689 --> 01:33:03,150
the night by jetting non-stop across the

1834
01:33:08,989 --> 01:33:05,699
cosmos in search of the truly bizarre

1835
01:33:12,319 --> 01:33:08,999
and totally unexplained with you as

1836
01:33:16,129 --> 01:33:12,329
their combines Thursday nights at 7:00

1837
01:33:18,810 --> 01:33:16,139
p.m. Pacific 10:00 p.m. Eastern on the

1838
01:33:21,270 --> 01:33:18,820
kco our digital radio

1839
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:21,280
for more information on exploring the

1840
01:33:27,570 --> 01:33:24,730
bazaar and hosts Timothy Becca anthem

1841
01:33:30,660 --> 01:33:27,580
Swartz check out their K cor digital

1842
01:33:36,900 --> 01:33:30,670
radio network follow their YouTube

1843
01:33:46,900 --> 01:33:36,910
channel @m r UFO 1100 explore the